Author: Anthony Cozzie
Date: 09:17:24 12/27/04
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On December 27, 2004 at 12:00:13, Laurens Winkelhagen wrote: >On December 27, 2004 at 01:24:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On December 26, 2004 at 23:06:19, Dan Ellwein wrote: >> >>>here's the game... >>> >>>P3/850 >>> >>>Fischer Time: 10/10 >>> >>>[Event ""] >>>[Site ""] >>>[Date "2004.12.26"] >>>[Round ""] >>>[White "Chessmaster 10th Ed."] >>>[Black "offset.a5.5"] >>>[TimeControl "600+10"] >>>[Result "0-1"] >>>[ECO "oft "] >>> >>>1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.e3 Nf6 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.e4 c6 9.Be2 >>>O-O 10.O-O cxd5 11.cxd5 e6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Bh4 g5 >>>14.Bg3 >>> >>>[d]r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b - - 0 14 >>> >>>14. ...Nxe4!? >> >> Hi Dan >> A very interesting positional sacrifice to get a strong >> pawn center. I however doubt that you will find another >> engine to play this move without changing some internal >> settings. >> Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com] > >On December 27, 2004 at 01:24:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On December 26, 2004 at 23:06:19, Dan Ellwein wrote: >> >>>here's the game... >>> >>>P3/850 >>> >>>Fischer Time: 10/10 >>> >>>[Event ""] >>>[Site ""] >>>[Date "2004.12.26"] >>>[Round ""] >>>[White "Chessmaster 10th Ed."] >>>[Black "offset.a5.5"] >>>[TimeControl "600+10"] >>>[Result "0-1"] >>>[ECO "oft "] >>> >>>1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.e3 Nf6 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.e4 c6 9.Be2 >>>O-O 10.O-O cxd5 11.cxd5 e6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Bh4 g5 >>>14.Bg3 >>> >>>[d]r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b - - 0 14 >>> >>>14. ...Nxe4!? >> >> Hi Dan >> A very interesting positional sacrifice to get a strong >> pawn center. I however doubt that you will find another >> engine to play this move without changing some internal >> settings. >> Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com] > > >Interesting;-) > >My own engine JanWillem, certainly not at the level of chessmaster, finds this >move immediately. But now with Kurts story above I am interested to know if this >is indeed the best move. Is it an Indication that JanWillem overvalues passed >pawns / pawncenters? JanWillem thinks it's drawish. > >9605 >first : setboard r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b >- - 0 1 >9646 <first : Unknown Command: post >9646 <first : >9647 <first : pong 2 >15141 >first : time 900000 >otim 900000 >15141 >first : go >15181 <first : Book moves: 0 >15207 <first : 0 -59 5 155 e6d5 >15210 <first : 1 -59 6 2292 e6d5 e4d5 >15234 <first : 2 -59 8 8886 f6e4 e4d5 f8e8 >15351 <first : 3 -30 20 46653 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 >15546 <first : 4 -28 39 115095 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 g7f6 >16007 <first : 5 -16 85 253635 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 b7b6 h2g3 e6d5 >17281 <first : 6 -35 213 670086 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 h2g3 g8f7 e2f3 >20193 <first : 7 -4 504 1732933 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c3 e5e4 f2g3 g8f7 e2c4 f7e8 >27970 <first : 8 -11 1282 4567618 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1c2 f8f7 e2f3 g8f7 >e2f3 >48956 <first : 9 -4 3380 11986700 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1c2 g8f7 e2c4 g8f7 >b2b4 c5d3 d1b3 >148816 <first : 10 3 13366 44648725 f6e4 d5e6 d8d1 e6f7 f8f7 h2g3 g8f7 g3e5 g8f8 >e2c4 f8e8 e6f7 f7f8 >234641 <first : 11 3 21949 74547567 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1d2 b7b6 c5a6 g8f8 >g8f8 c3e4 g7e5 f7e8 e2h5 >234642 <first : move f6e4 > > >Kind Regards, Laurens. Not really; it is an indication that you undervalue pieces. See Crafty's bad trade code. anthony
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