Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:38:25 12/29/04
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On December 29, 2004 at 15:18:31, Dann Corbit wrote: >On December 29, 2004 at 14:58:43, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On December 29, 2004 at 14:53:42, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On December 29, 2004 at 14:43:40, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>Here is the current result of a little 10'+10" contest I have running: >>>> Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws >>>>1 Fruit_src : 2850 66 149 52 83.7 % 2566 17.3 % >>>>2 Crafty-1917 : 2670 85 86 52 61.5 % 2588 26.9 % >>>>3 Glaurung : 2660 85 89 53 60.4 % 2587 22.6 % >>>>4 Arasanx : 2648 90 90 52 57.7 % 2594 19.2 % >>>>5 Movei : 2572 81 93 52 45.2 % 2606 25.0 % >>>>6 Ges : 2518 82 83 53 37.7 % 2605 30.2 % >>>>7 Natwarlal : 2494 100 80 52 33.7 % 2612 21.2 % >>>>8 GreKo : 2389 147 69 52 20.2 % 2627 13.5 % >>>> >>>>Conclusion: >>>>Fruit 2.0 looks pretty strong. >>>>The Ges version is 1.32, and I was a bit surprised at how well Ges performed. >>> >>>I am surprised by the bad result of movei. >>>It is certainly weaker than Fruit and probably also weaker than Crafty inspite >>>of the fact that I do not think that it is weaker than Crafty19.17 that is known >>>to be a weak version of Crafty but I think that it is stronger than Glaurung and >>>Arasan. >>> >>>public version even performed better than Crafty19.15 in a recent tournament >>> >>>see >>>http://www.playwitharena.co.uk/modules.php?name=ATL_League >> >>I think that there may have been a problem in recoginzing the movei book. I >>will look into it. > >Movei, Fruit, and Natwarlal are not using a book -- not sure why yet. >In a 10'+10" contest, lack of a book should be very telling. Not sure why Fruit >should still be pounding the stuffings out of everybody. In the case of movei you need to change the name of the book based on the version number of the program Version number is given in defs.h I guess that the version number that you have is 300(no significant difference in playing strength from 295 expected) A book is important for not losing the same game again and again. Fruit simply does not lose when you choose weak opponents for it so it does not need book. It is not the first time that a program does good results with no book and List is leading the rating list of the infinite loop with no book http://freehosting.hostrave.com/p/iggor/nil/NIL7_rat.txt books are simply not very important(at least books that are used by amateurs) and it seems that the only importance of them is to prevent losing the same game again and again. Uri
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