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Subject: Testposition for any new Engines

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 03:51:31 12/30/04

This Testposition was my idea from a game Savtschenko-Naumann, (Analyse Nemeth)
in RE St.21 NR. 4/99. 0–1

I have test any engines with this position and many programs have problems with
it ( German: z.B. Spike, Fruit ) !

Here an analysis by Fruit 2.0:

[D]8/7P/8/8/K2b4/p7/1k6/1B6 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.0:

1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 1/2   00:00:00
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 2/4   00:00:00
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 3/6   00:00:00
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 4/6   00:00:00
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 5/8   00:00:00
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 6/10   00:00:00  1kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 7/10   00:00:00  3kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 8/12   00:00:00  8kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 9/13   00:00:01  14kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 10/14   00:00:01  28kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 11/15   00:00:01  47kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 12/15   00:00:01  71kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 13/16   00:00:01  106kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 14/18   00:00:02  156kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 15/19   00:00:02  224kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 16/20   00:00:03  292kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 17/22   00:00:03  405kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 18/22   00:00:04  552kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 19/27   00:00:05  785kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 20/28   00:00:06  1170kN
1...Kxb1 2.Kxa3 Ka1 3.Kb3 Kb1 4.Kb4 Ka1 5.Kb3
  =  (0.00)   Tiefe: 21/31   00:00:08  1804kN

(Nemeth, Privat 30.12.2004)

Here I waiting now >5 minutes (!) on my P3 600, and I see that Fruit 2.0 looks
the move Bc3! as move 5/16 in Deep 21/38, but Fruit 2.0 needs not use this move
in his HV!

Why Fruit 2.0 cannot find here Bc3?

The Young SMIRF-Engine find this move very fast (very good):

Analysis by SMIRF-Engine (latest Beta):

00:02.3 (12.01) +5.35 Ld4-c3 Lb1-d3 a3-a2 Ka4-b5 a2-a1D Kb5-c6 Da1-d1
00:00.3 (11.01) +5.16 Ld4-c3 Lb1-d3 a3-a2 Ka4-b5 a2-a1D Kb5-c6 Da1-d1 Ld3-e4
Dd1-a4+ Kc6-d6
00:00.0 (11.01) +4.98 Ld4-c3 Lb1-d3 a3-a2 Ka4-b5 a2-a1D Kb5-c6 Da1-d1 Ld3-e4
Dd1-a4+ Kc6-d6

Eduard

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Re: Testposition for any new Engines William Bryant 16:27:42 12/30/04
Re: Testposition for any new Engines Zach Wegner 12:36:21 12/30/04
Re: Testposition for any new Engines Uri Blass 08:23:30 12/30/04
Re: Testposition for any new Engines Anthony Cozzie 06:59:01 12/30/04
Re: Testposition for any new Engines Ulysses Omycron 05:43:15 12/30/04
- Re: On SMIRF Reinhard Scharnagl 06:01:23 12/30/04
  - Re: On SMIRF Ulysses Omycron 06:06:17 12/30/04
    - Re: On SMIRF Reinhard Scharnagl 06:13:31 12/30/04
      - Re: On SMIRF (GUI image) Reinhard Scharnagl 10:56:55 12/31/04
      - Ok... Ulysses Omycron 06:28:22 12/30/04
        
        Re: Ok... Reinhard Scharnagl 06:32:42 12/30/04
        
        I like it Ulysses Omycron 07:28:33 12/30/04
        
        Re: I like it Reinhard Scharnagl 07:42:22 12/30/04

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