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Subject: Re: Anonymity

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 06:57:31 01/21/99

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On January 21, 1999 at 03:33:05, Peter Herttrich wrote:

>On January 20, 1999 at 17:16:05, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 1999 at 16:28:14, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>
>>>I think that a real name should be required, even though enforcement would be
>>>difficult to the point where it may not be worth even trying to enforce it.
>>>
>>>I think that anonymity leads to poor posts
>>
>
>at minimum the danger exists.
>

Danger of poor posts? We don't have that now in some cases with real names?

>
>>Are you claiming my posts are poor? Or KK's posts? What is the real reason that
>>anonymity bothers you?
>
>KK? I think everyone here knows, that KK is Alan in Canada (forgot his
>pastname, sri). He is not anonym.

Yes. Alan's name has been posted today and Emailed to me today. I apologize to
Alan for bringing his name into this as I respect his privacy evidently more
than other people respect my privacy.

>
>
>>
>>>, since accountability is nil, could
>>>cause extremely serious problems, since we occasionally have real votes, and
>>>leads to other distractions as well.
>>>
>>>I brought this issue up once before and it seemed likely that I was in the
>>>minority, but I predict that we will have to deal with these issues for real
>>>eventually.
>>
>>Why? If someone is not being abusive, who cares?
>
>
>If in my club a member is running around with a camouflage, I have to
>ask myself and also him/she, what has to be hidden?

Does it matter? You act as if your suspicious nature is more important than my
right to privacy.

>
>
>>
>>Your entire reasoning appears flawed. Even with real sounding names, you cannot
>>have accountability, you cannot enforce it, you cannot even guarantee that all
>>of the names you currently have in the group are real, so what is the point?
>
>May be, but did you not want to know, who is your opposite?
>I can accept much more the oppinion of a known person then from
>an anonymous.
>
>
>
>>
>>I have received an Email as well from a person who did not like anonymity,
>>however, this is not a requirement for this group. My belief is that anonymity
>>bothers some people cause "they don't know". That is the real crux of your
>>message Bruce. It has nothing to do with accountability or voting or anything
>>else except that it bothers you (and possibly a few select others).
>
>How can you know, how Bruce thinks or feels?

I do not. However, indicating that I did has gotten Bruce to respond with a
lengthy and more reasonable post on the topic, hence, like you said below, I
pushed his buttons for a more explanative dialog.

>
>>
>>Are you afraid that I am secretly Sean? Heaven forbid!
>
>No one has said this!

No, but it had the desired effect of illiciting a response.

>
>I only asked you for your real name. And that your account darmanus
>sounds crazy for me .... and German.
>
>But I got the expected answer.

I'm glad I didn't disappoint.

>And it seems that i have pushed the right button at your keyboard ;-|

Yup. No argument there. :)

>
>
>
>
>Here an idea for the charta of this club: Every member should work
>with it's real name.

This idea is intrusive to my privacy. It cannot easily be enforced, and I doubt
Steve wants to go to that level for a mostly reasonable group of people on a
free message board.

Keep thinking :)

KarinsDad

>
>
>Peter



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