Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 08:03:07 12/31/04
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On December 31, 2004 at 09:58:04, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 31, 2004 at 09:27:00, Ziad Haddad wrote: > >>According to my own tests, Shredder 8 is slightly than Shredder 7.04. The mai >>difference according to me is due to the fact that Shredder8 ponders 15% fastly >>than his predecessor. But i've got a great assumption, always with my own tests >>i find that Shredder7.04 with my Haddad1.2DP2 setting is stronger than >>Shredder8. When facing one each other Shredder 8 beats my setting but the >>results of matches vs the other top engines are slightly in favor of >>Shredder7.04. That's why i'm actually trying to find a better setting for >>Shredder8. >>I wonder if SSDF will test my setting as they done with CM9000 SKR then Shredder >>7.04 will be on top again. >>The latest SSDF rating prooves at least something: Stefab Meyer Kahlen is the >>beggest computer chess programmer of the last century. Shredder will certainly >>remain on top for a few years again. > >We cannot know the future. >I wonder how do you know what is going to happen in the next few years. > >When I consider the fact that movei is only 200-300 elo weaker than shredder >inspite of all the missing knowledge that it does not have(both in evaluation >and search) I think the improvments get more and more difficult as you move up in strength elovise. More parameters to tune, more parameters kicking in at wrong time etc. etc. I think that the current chessprograms are strong, but still with a lot of potential for improvment. But have we really seen any real improvment in 2004? Torstein I think that chess programs are very weak and I expect to see in >2008 some programs that are at least 100 elo better than shredder8 and I am not >sure if the best of them is going to be shredderX. > > > >If someone kwants to know how I got the estimate of 200-300 elo difference then >Movei is 215 elo weaker than Shredder based on the following link >http://www.playwitharena.co.uk/modules.php?name=ATL_League&page=4 > >Shredder is handicapped by using arena book so I guess that the real difference >is near 250 elo. > >Uri
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