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Subject: Re: Junior 9 Test (40'/40) after 300 games

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 17:43:34 01/01/05

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On January 01, 2005 at 14:29:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 01, 2005 at 11:26:19, James T. Walker wrote:
>
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>>Really?  Compare Chess Tiger 14/15/2004.  Compare Fritz 7/8.  Even Shredder 7/8
>>has a small improvement.  And my results on Junior 8/9 show no real increase in
>>strength although SSDF results will take some time.  Hiarcs 7/8 showed nothing
>>but Hiacs 9 did improve over them.  Of course lower rated programs seem to have
>>more room for improvement but if they are using similiar techniques of
>>search/eval/pruning/time control then they will eventually hit the same wall.  I
>>think some new innovative technique is required at this point.  Else all
>>improvements of substantive value will only come from hardware.
>
>I think that there is no wall and it is only some temporary failure of the
>programmers to get significant progress.
>
>Uri

Well Uri, you may be right but in my opinion the wall has been here for 2 years
now and only time will tell if you are correct.
Jim



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