Author: Ulysses Omycron
Date: 14:23:08 01/02/05
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On January 02, 2005 at 04:23:12, Graham Banks wrote:
>I have contempt for draw set to 0 and still Shredder likes to play out a game in
>positions where other top programs are happy to acquiesce in a draw.
I've seen that too, the 0.00 doesn't show up so Shredder avoids drawing, and I
have an example in where both Shredder UCI and Prodeo SD6.7 (That should be
tested thoughtfully) had a super struggle in a drawish position... I was so
bored I adjudicated a draw (Please tell me if the game is not draw so I change
the result!):
[Event "S8 P67"]
[Site "W7Y8T2"]
[Date "2004.12.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Shredder8"]
[Black "Prodeo S&D67"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E00"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn"]
[Time "12:56:24"]
[Variation "Neo-Indian"]
[WhiteElo "1500"]
[TimeControl "300+8"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "240"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.e3 Nc6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Nc3 d5 6.Bd2 O-O 7.Be2 dxc4 8.Bxc4 a6
{(a7a6 a2a3 b7b5 c4d3 c8b7 d1c2 g7g6 c3e4 f6e4 d3e4 ) -0.11/10 12} 9.O-O {(0-0
b5 Bd3
Bb7 Ne4 Nxe4 Bxe4 f5 Bd3 Qd5 Qc2 Qd6) +0.18/13 35} b5 {(b7b5 c4d3 c6b4 d3e2 )
+0.01/11 20} 10.Bd3 {(Bd3 Nb4 Be4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Bb7 Bxb4 Bxe4 Bxe7 Qxe7 Rc1 f6 Rc3
Rad8 Rc5
Qxc5 dxc5) +0.17/13 21} Nb4 {(c6b4 d3e2 ) 0.00/12 20} 11.Be2 {(Be2 Bb7 a3 Nbd5
Rc1
Rc8 b4 Nxc3 Bxc3 Qd5 Bb2 Ne4 Qc2 Qd6) +0.10/13 17} Bb7 {(c8b7 a2a3 b4d5 a1c1
a8c8
b2b4 d5c3 d2c3 d8d5 ) -0.01/12 20} 12.a4 {(a4 bxa4 Nxa4 Ne4 Bxb4 Bxb4 Qc2 Qd6
Rac1
Rac8 Nc5 Nxc5 Qxh7+ Kxh7) +0.12/13 22} bxa4 {(b5a4 c3a4 a6a5 a4c5 e7c5 d4c5 d8e7
d2b4 a5b4 d1d4 f6e4 ) 0.00/11 18} 13.Nxa4 {(Nxa4 Ne4 Bxb4 Bxb4 Qb3 a5 Qc2 Ng5
Ne5 f6
Qb3 fxe5 Qxe6+ Nxe6) +0.03/13 25} a5 {(a6a5 b2b3 e7d6 a4b2 ) +0.05/10 20}
14.Bxb4
{(Bxb4 axb4 Nc5 Bxc5 dxc5 Qxd1 Rfxd1 Ne4 Rxa8 Rxa8 c6 Bxc6 Rc1 Bb7 Rxc7)
+0.14/12 20}
axb4 {(a5b4 a4c5 e7c5 d4c5 d8d1 f1d1 f6e4 ) +0.05/10 3} 15.Ne5 {(Ne5 Nd7 f4 Nxe5
fxe5 Qd7 Bf3 Bxf3 Rxf3) +0.04/13 23} Nd7 {(f6d7 e2f3 b7f3 e5f3 e7d6 d1c2 d8f6
f1c1
f8d8 e3e4 ) +0.06/10 15} 16.Nd3 {(Nd3 Bd6 f4 Qh4 Bf3 Bxf3 Rxf3 Ra5 Rh3 Qf6 Rg3
Qf5
b3) +0.04/12 20} Bd6 {(e7d6 f2f4 a8a5 e2f3 b7f3 f1f3 d8a8 d3e5 f8d8 e5c4 )
+0.11/11
20} 17.f4 {(f4 Bd5 Qd2 Qe7 Qc2 Rfd8 Nac5 Bxc5 Nxc5 Nxc5 Qxh7+ Kxh7) +0.07/12 10}
Ra5 {(a8a5 e2f3 b7f3 d1f3 d8a8 b2b3 a8f3 f1f3 d7f6 d3e5 f8a8 e5c6 a5a6 )
+0.13/10
12} 18.Nac5 {(Nac5 Rxa1 Qxa1 Nxc5 dxc5 Be7 Rd1 Qa8 Qxa8 Rxa8 Bf3 Bxf3 gxf3 Ra2
Kf2
Bh4+ Ke2 Bf6 e4) +0.11/11 15} Rxa1 {(a5a1 d1a1 d7c5 d4c5 d6e7 f1d1 d8a8 a1a8
f8a8
e2f3 b7f3 g2f3 a8a2 e3e4 e7f6 e4e5 ) +0.28/13 19} 19.Qxa1 {(Qxa1 Nxc5 dxc5 Be7
Rd1
Qa8 Qxa8 Rxa8 Bf3 Bxf3 gxf3 Ra2 Kf2 Bh4+ Ke2 Bf6 e4) +0.11/14 7} Nxc5 {(d7c5
d4c5
d6e7 f1d1 d8a8 a1a8 f8a8 g1f2 a8a2 d1d2 e7h4 g2g3 h4f6 c5c6 b7c8 ) +0.37/12 11}
20.dxc5 {(dxc5 Be7 Rd1 Qa8 Qxa8 Rxa8 Bf3 Bxf3 gxf3 Ra2 Kf2 f6 c6 Kf7 h3 b3)
-0.01/15
14} Be7 {(d6e7 f1d1 d8a8 a1a8 f8a8 g1f2 a8d8 d1c1 e7f6 ) +0.36/12 12} 21.Rd1
{(Rd1
Qa8 Qxa8 Rxa8 Kf2 Ra2 Rd2 Ba6 Nxb4 Bxe2 Nxa2 Bh4+ Kxe2 f6) -0.26/15 31} Qa8
{(d8a8
a1a8 f8a8 g1f2 a8d8 d3b4 ) +0.43/12 16} 22.Qxa8 {(Qxa8 Rxa8 Kf2 b3 c6 Bxc6 Rc1
Bd5
Rxc7 Rc8 Rxc8+ Bd8) +0.09/13 4} Rxa8 {(f8a8 d1c1 a8a4 ) +0.52/8 1} 23.Kf2 {(Kf2
Rd8
Nxb4 Rxd1 Bxd1 Bxc5 Nd3 Bd6 Bf3 Ba6) -0.03/13 16} Rd8 {(a8d8 d3b4 ) +0.52/11 11}
24.Nxb4 {(Nxb4 Rxd1 Bxd1 Bxc5 Nd3 Be7 b4 Kf8 Nc5 Bd5 Bf3 Bc4 g3 g6 Nd7+)
+0.12/15 15}
Rxd1 {(d8d1 e2d1 ) +0.47/13 16} 25.Bxd1 {(Bxd1 Bxc5 Nd3 Be7 b4 Bd5 Bf3 f5 g4
fxg4
Bxg4 Kf7 Nc5 Kf6 Ke2 e5) +0.26/16 6} Bxc5 {(e7c5 b4d3 c5d6 d1f3 b7a6 f3e2 a6c4
e3e4
c4d3 e2d3 d6f4 h2h4 f4e5 b2b3 h7h5 ) +0.50/13 19} 26.Nd3 {(Nd3 Be7 b4 Bd5 Bf3 f5
Bxd5 exd5 b5 Kf7 Ne5+ Ke6 Nc6 g6 Ke2 Bc5 Kd3) +0.19/17 11} Bd6 {(c5d6 d1f3 b7a6
f3e2
a6b5 b2b4 ) +0.45/12 18} 27.b4 {(b4 Bd5 h3 f6 Bf3 Kf7 Nc5 Bc4 g3 e5) +0.10/15
16}
Be4 {(b7e4 d3c5 e4b1 d1f3 e6e5 g2g3 b1g6 h2h4 ) +0.50/12 19} 28.Nc5 {(Nc5 Bd5 g3
f6
Ke2 Kf7 Kd3 f5 Kd4 Be7 g4 Bf6+ Kd3 Be7) +0.24/16 10} Bb1 {(e4b1 g2g3 e6e5 d1f3
h7h6
h2h4 ) +0.46/12 19} 29.Kf3 {(Kf3 Bxc5 bxc5 f5 g4 Be4+ Kg3 Kf7 Be2 h6 h4 fxg4
Kxg4 g6
Kg3) +0.37/15 16} e5 {(e6e5 g2g3 h7h5 ) +0.47/11 15} 30.h3 {(h3 g6 g4 e4+ Kf2
Kg7 g5
f5 Bb3 h6 h4 Bd3 Bd5 hxg5 hxg5) +0.30/15 32} h5 {(h7h5 d1b3 e5f4 e3f4 h5h4 b3c4
b1f5 ) +0.50/11 13} 31.g4 {(g4 hxg4+ hxg4 f6 Bb3+ Kh7 fxe5 Bxe5 Bf7 Bc3 Bd5 Bxb4
g5)
+0.26/15 22} hxg4+ {(h5g4+ h3g4 g7g6 d1b3 g8g7 b3c4 f7f6 g4g5 f6g5 ) +0.46/11
17}
32.hxg4 {(hxg4 exf4 exf4 f5 g5 Kf8 Bb3 g6 Bd5 Bc2 Ke3 Ke8) +0.23/15 3} g5 {(g7g5
f4g5
g8g7 d1e2 d6e7 c5d3 b1d3 e2d3 e7b4 f3e4 b4c3 e4d5 c3d2 g5g6 ) +0.48/12 16}
33.fxg5
{(fxg5 Kg7 Bb3 e4+ Nxe4 Bxb4 Nf6 Kg6 Ne8 c6 Ba4 Kxg5 Bxc6 f5 gxf5 Kxf5) +0.27/17
14}
Be7 {(d6e7 d1e2 g8g7 c5d3 e7d6 d3c5 e5e4 ) +0.41/12 10} 34.Bb3 {(Bb3 Bxg5 Bd5
Kg7
Nd7 Bf6 Ke2 Bc2 Nxf6 Kxf6 b5) +0.40/16 12} Bxg5 {(e7g5 b3c4 g5e7 c5d3 e7d6 b4b5
g8g7 e3e4 f7f6 f3e3 b1c2 ) +0.46/12 9} 35.Nd7 {(Nd7 e4+ Ke2 Be7 Nc5 Kg7 Bd5 Kf6
Bxe4
Bxc5 Kd2) +0.20/16 15} e4+ {(e5e4+ f3e2 b1d3 e2d2 g5e7 d2c3 d3e2 d7e5 g8g7 )
+0.37/14 16} 36.Ke2 {(Ke2 Be7 Nc5 Kg7 Bc4 Kg6 Kd2 Kg5 Kc1 Bd3 Bxd3 exd3 Kd2 Kxg4
Kxd3
Kf3 e4 Kf4 Kd4 Bxc5+) +0.13/19 10} Bd3+ {(b1d3+ e2d2 g5e7 d2c3 d3e2 d7e5 g8g7 )
+0.19/13 10} 37.Kd2 {(Kd2 Be7 Nc5 Bf1 Bd5 Bh3 Bxe4 Bxg4 Kd3 Be6 Nxe6 fxe6 b5 Kf7
Kd4 Kf6
Bb7) +0.28/16 3} Be7 {(g5e7 d2c3 d3e2 d7e5 g8g7 ) +0.39/13 10} 38.Nc5 {(Nc5 Bf1
Ba4
Kg7 Bc6 Bh3 Bd7 Kg6 Kc3 Bxc5 bxc5 Bf1) +0.25/18 13} Bf1 {(d3f1 d2c3 f1e2 c5e4
e2g4
c3d4 g8g7 b4b5 e7d6 e4d6 c7d6 b3c4 g7f6 ) +0.62/13 12} 39.Kc3 {(Kc3 Be2 Kd4 Bf6+
Kxe4 Bc3 Nd3 Bxd3+ Kxd3 Bxb4 e4 Kf8 e5 Bd2) +0.26/17 12} Be2 {(f1e2 c3d4 g8g7 )
+0.60/13 14} 40.Kd4 {(Kd4 Bf6+ Kxe4 Bc3 Nd7 Kg7 Ne5 f6 Nc6 Bxg4 Kd3 Bb2 Ne7 Ba3
Bd5)
+0.16/17 14} Bxg4 {(e2g4 d4e4 ) +0.55/12 12} 41.Kxe4 {(Kxe4 Bd6 Ba4 Kf8 Bb3 f5+
Kd5)
+0.07/15 7} Bd6 {(e7d6 c5d3 g8f8 e4d4 f7f6 e3e4 ) +0.54/12 11} 42.Kd4 {(Kd4 Kf8
Nd3 Ke7
Ne5 f5 Nc6+ Kf6 Bc4 Bf3 Bd5 Bh5 e4 fxe4 Bxe4 Be8 b5 Bxc6 Bxc6) +0.03/16 12} Kf8
{(g8f8 e3e4 f7f6 c5d3 ) +0.54/12 9} 43.Bd5 {(Bd5 Ke7 Bb7 f6 b5 Be2 Nd3 f5 Kd5
Bxd3
Kd4) +0.01/17 13} Ke7 {(f8e7 e3e4 f7f6 c5d3 g4f3 b4b5 d6g3 d5c4 e7d6 c4d5 f3g4 )
+0.53/12 15} 44.Bg2 {(Bg2 Be2 Be4 f6 Bd3 Bxc5+ bxc5 Bxd3 Kxd3 f5 e4 fxe4+ Kxe4
Ke6 Kd3
Kd5 c6 Kd6 Kd4 Kxc6 Kc4 Kb6) 0.00/17 18} Bg3 {(d6g3 g2d5 f7f6 c5d3 e7d6 )
+0.59/12
15} 45.Kd5 {(Kd5 Be1 b5 Bd2 e4 Bf4 Kc6 Bd6 Kd5 Kf6 Kc6 Ke7 Kd5 Kf6 Kc6 Ke7 Kd5)
0.00/16 12} Be1 {(g3e1 c5a6 g4c8 g2f1 e1g3 ) +0.62/12 13} 46.b5 {(b5 Bf2 e4 Bxc5
Kxc5
Be6 Bf1 f6) +0.07/16 9} Bf2 {(e1f2 d5d4 f2h4 c5d3 ) +0.62/12 13} 47.e4 {(e4 f6
Kc6
Bg3 Kd5 Be2 Kc6 Bg4 Kd5 Be2 Kc6 Bg4 Kd5) 0.00/17 8} Bg3 {(f2g3 g2f1 g4f3 c5b3 )
+0.62/12 13} 48.e5 {(e5 Be2 Ne4 Bh2 Nc3 Bg4 Kd4 Ke6 Bd5+ Kf5 Be4+ Ke6 Bd5+ Kf5
Be4+ Ke6
Bd5+ Kf5) +0.03/18 12} Be2 {(g4e2 c5a6 e2b5 a6c7 ) +0.55/12 13} 49.Ne4 {(Ne4 Bh2
Nc3
Bg4 Kd4 Ke6 Bd5+ Kf5 Be4+ Ke6 Bd5+ Kf5 Be4+ Ke6 Bd5+ Kf5) +0.02/19 10} Be1
{(g3e1
d5c6 e1a5 e4c5 e2g4 g2d5 ) +0.49/13 13} 50.Kc6 {(Kc6 Ke6 Ng5+ Kxe5 Nxf7+ Kd4 Ng5
Ba5
Ne6+ Ke5 Nc5 Bh5 Nd7+ Kd4 Nf6) +0.05/17 8} Ba5 {(e1a5 e4f6 e7e6 f6d7 e2g4 d7f6
g4d1
f6d5 d1a4 d5c7 e6e5 g2h3 a4b5 c7b5 ) +0.34/13 13} 51.Bh3 {(Bh3 Bf3 Bf5 Bxe4+
Bxe4
Ke6 Bd5+ Kxe5 Bxf7 Kf6 Bd5 Bb6) +0.04/17 8} Bf3 {(e2f3 c6d5 a5b6 h3f5 b6f2 d5c6
e7d8 c6d5 f2e3 e5e6 d8e7 e6f7 e7f7 d5e5 f7e7 e4c5 ) +0.59/13 9} 52.Bf5 {(Bf5
Bxe4+
Bxe4 Ke6 Bd5+ Kxe5 Bxf7 Kf6 Bd5 Bb6 Bb3 Ke5 Bf7 Kf6 Bd5 Ke5 Bf7 Kf6 Bd5 Ke5 Bf7
Kf6)
0.00/21 8} Kd8 {(e7d8 c6d5 a5b6 e5e6 f7e6 d5e6 f3e2 e4d6 b6e3 ) +0.55/12 8}
53.Kd5
{(Kd5 Ke7 Kc6 Bxe4+ Bxe4 Ke6 Bd5+) 0.00/20 10} Bb6 {(a5b6 e5e6 f7e6 d5e6 f3e2
e4c3
e2c4 e6e5 ) +0.46/12 14} 54.e6 {(e6 fxe6+ Bxe6 Ke7 Bf5 Bh5 Nc3 Ba5 Kd4 Bf7 Bd3
Bxc3+
Kxc3 Kd6 Kd4 Ke7) -0.01/18 7} fxe6+ {(f7e6+ d5e6 f3e2 e4c3 e2c4 e6e5 ) +0.41/11
8}
55.Bxe6 {(Bxe6 Ke7 Bf5 Bh5 Nc3 Ba5 Kd4 Bxc3+ Kxc3 Kd6 Kb4 Be2 Be4 Ke5 Bg2 Kd4)
-0.04/20
6} Ke7 {(d8e7 e6f5 f3h5 d5e5 ) +0.53/12 6} 56.Bf5 {(Bf5 Bxe4+ Bxe4 Kd8) -0.06/21
16} Bg1 {(b6g1 d5e5 g1h2 e5d4 f3h5 e4c3 e7f6 f5e4 h2e5 d4d3 f6e6 c3d5 ) +0.52/12
8}
57.Kc6 {(Kc6 Kd8 Kb7 Bb6 Bg6 Bg4 Nd6 Ke7 Nc4 Bf3+ Kb8 Be2 Nxb6 cxb6 Bf5 Bxb5 Kc7
Bc4
Kxb6) 0.00/19 3} Bh2 {(g1h2 b5b6 c7b6 c6b6 h2f4 ) +0.48/13 10} 58.Kb7 {(Kb7 Bf4
Kc8
Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd6 Kb7 Be3 Bg2 Bf4 Kc8) +0.01/21 10} Be5 {(h2e5 b5b6 c7b6 b7b6 e5d4
b6c6
f3d1 e4c3 d1b3 c3d5 e7f7 c6d6 b3c4 f5d3 c4b3 ) +0.51/12 11} 59.Kc6 {(Kc6 Bxe4+
Bxe4
Ke6 Kb7) +0.01/19 4} Kf7 {(e7f7 b5b6 c7b6 c6b6 f7e7 f5g4 f3g2 b6c5 e5f4 c5d4
f4d2 )
+0.51/11 6} 60.Kd7 {(Kd7 Bxe4 Bxe4 Bf4 Bd5+ Kf6 Be6 Kg7 Kc6 Kf6 Kd5 Ke7 Bf5 Be3
Be4 Kd8
Kc6 Bb6 Bf5 Bd4 Kd5 Bc3) +0.03/19 7} Be2 {(f3e2 d7c6 f7e7 e4c3 e5c3 ) +0.28/12
11}
61.Kc6 {(Kc6 Bf3 Kd5 Bf4 Kc5 Bxe4 Bxe4 Ke6 Bd5+ Ke5 Kc6 Kf5 Bc4) +0.05/18 11}
Ke7
{(f7e7 e4c3 e5c3 ) +0.30/12 10} 62.Kd5 {(Kd5 Bg7 Kc5 Be5 Kd5 Bg7 Kc5 Be5 Kd5
Bg7)
0.00/18 8} Bh2 {(e5h2 e4c3 e2f1 d5c6 e7f6 ) +0.27/12 6} 63.Nc3 {(Nc3 Bf3+ Be4
Bg4 Kc6
Bd7+ Kb7 Be5 Nd5+ Kd8 Bd3 Be6 Bc4 Bxd5+ Bxd5 Bg3 Bg2 Kd7 Bd5) +0.03/17 5} Bh5
{(e2h5
d5d4 ) +0.27/12 10} 64.Bd3 {(Bd3 Kd7 Bf5+ Ke7 Bb1 Bg4 Kc6 Bd7+ Kb7 Kd6 Ne4+ Ke5
Kxc7
Bxb5 Kb6 Be8 Bd3) +0.01/17 11} Be8 {(h5e8 d3c4 e7f6 d5e4 f6g5 c3d5 ) +0.37/10 6}
65.Be2 {(Be2 Bf7+ Kc6 Be8+ Kc5 Ke6 Bc4+ Kd7 Ne4 Bg1+ Kb4 Bg6 Bd5 Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd6)
+0.02/15 4} Kd7 {(e7d7 d5d4 ) +0.39/11 12} 66.Bg4+ {(Bg4+ Ke7 Bf3 Kd7 Bg4+ Ke7
Bf3 Kd7
Bg4+ Ke7) +0.01/19 8} Kd8 {(d7d8 g4f3 h2g3 ) +0.36/12 16} 67.Bh3 {(Bh3 Ke7 Bg2
Bf4
Kc5 Be3+ Kd5 Bd7 Ke5 Bf2 Bb7 Bg3+ Kd5 Bf4 Kc4 Kd6 Nd5 Be6 Kd4 Bxd5) +0.01/17 10}
Bg1 {(h2g1 h3f5 d8e7 f5d3 g1f2 d5e5 f2g3 e5d4 ) +0.42/11 6} 68.Bf5 {(Bf5 Ke7 Be4
Bh2 Kc4 Be5 Bb7 Bxc3 Kc5) +0.01/16 6} Ke7 {(d8e7 f5d3 e7d7 c3e4 e8f7 d5e5 g1h2
e5f6
d7e8 e4g5 f7b3 d3g6 e8d7 g6f5 ) +0.40/12 12} 69.Be4 {(Be4 Kd7 Bf5+ Ke7 Be4 Kd7
Bf5+
Ke7 Be4) +0.01/19 9} Kf6 {(e7f6 e4f3 e8d7 ) +0.51/11 6} 70.Bd3 {(Bd3 Ke7 Ne2
Bf7+
Kc6 Bb6 Nf4 Kf6 Bg6 Bc4 Be4 Ke5 Bd5 Bxb5+ Kxb5 Kxf4 Kc6) 0.00/16 5} Bb6 {(g1b6
c3e4+ ) +0.42/12 12} 71.Na4 {(Na4 Bf7+ Kc6 Be8+ Kb7 Ba5 Ka6 Bb4 Be2 Bf7 b6 cxb6
Kxb6
Bc3 Nxc3 Ke5 Kb7 Kd4) 0.00/18 8} Bf7+ {(e8f7+ d5c6 b6a5 ) +0.33/12 6} 72.Kc6
{(Kc6
Ba5 b6 cxb6 Nxb6 Be8+ Kc5 Ke6 Bc4+ Ke5 Bd3 Bf7 Be2) 0.00/19 5} Ba5 {(b6a5 a4c5
f6e5
) +0.32/14 10} 73.Kb7 {(Kb7 Ke5 Ka6 Bd2 Kb7 Bf4 Nc3 Bd2 Na4 Bf4 Nc3 Bd2 Na4 Bf4)
0.00/18 11} Bd5+ {(f7d5+ b7a6 a5e1 b5b6 c7b6 a4b6 d5f3 b6d7 f6e6 d7e5 f3d5 d3e4
)
+0.60/11 6} 74.Ka6 {(Ka6 Bd2 b6 cxb6 Nxb6 Be6 Kb7 Ke5 Bb5 Be3 Ka6 Bxb6 Kxb6 Kd4
Kb7 Bf7
Ka6 Bc4 Bxc4) 0.00/19 4} Be1 {(a5e1 a4b6 d5f3 b6a8 f3a8 b5b6 c7c5 b6b7 a8b7 a6b6
e1b4 b6b7 f6e5 b7c6 e5d4 d3f5 c5c4 f5c2 ) +0.58/13 16} 75.Nc5 {(Nc5 Ke5 b6 cxb6
Nd7+
Kd6 Nxb6 Be6 Bb5 Ke7 Kb7 Kf6 Ka6 Bd2 Kb7 Be3 Bd3) 0.00/17 9} Ke7 {(f6e7 d3e4
d5c4
e4d3 c4f7 b5b6 c7b6 c5e4 f7d5 a6b6 e1b4 b6b5 b4c3 e4c3 ) +0.62/11 9} 76.Be4
{(Be4
Bc4 Bd3 Bd5 Be4 Bc4 Bd3 Bd5 Be4) 0.00/20 10} Bc4 {(d5c4 e4d3 c4f7 a6b7 e1a5 c5a6
f7d5 b7a7 a5b6 a7b8 e7d6 ) +0.36/13 10} 77.Bd3 {(Bd3 Bd5 Ne4 Bxe4 Bxe4 Bd2 Kb7
Be1
Kxc7 Ke6 Kc8 Bf2 Kb7 Bd4 b6 Bxb6 Kxb6) 0.00/19 7} Bf7 {(c4f7 a6b7 e1a5 c5a6 f7d5
b7a7 a5b6 a7b8 e7d6 ) +0.38/13 7} 78.Kb7 {(Kb7 Ba5 Ka6 Bb6 Na4 Bd4 Kb7 Kd6 b6
Bd5+
Kc8 Bxb6 Bf5) -0.01/18 15} Ba5 {(e1a5 b7c6 ) +0.28/13 11} 79.Kb8 {(Kb8 Be8 Be2
Bb6
Na4 Kd6 Kb7 Bd4 Ka6 Ke5 b6 Ke4 bxc7 Ke3 c8Q Kf4 Qxe8) -0.03/16 6} Be8 {(f7e8
d3c4
e8h5 ) +0.33/13 11} 80.Bc4 {(Bc4 Bb6 Ne4 c6 bxc6 Bxc6 Nd2 Kd8 Be2 Bd7) -0.01/18
4}
Bh5 {(e8h5 c4d3 h5f7 c5a6 e7d6 d3e4 f7c4 e4c6 ) +0.33/13 10} 81.Ne4 {(Ne4 Bf3
Bd5
Be2 Bc6 Ke6 Kc8 Ke5 Nc5 Bb6 Nd7+ Kd6 Nxb6 cxb6 Bb7) 0.00/17 5} Bf3 {(h5f3 e4c5
f3g2
c5e6 e7d6 e6c7 a5c7 b8a7 d6c5 c4e2 c7f4 b5b6 c5d5 ) +0.37/13 11} 82.Bd5 {(Bd5
Be2
Bc6 Ke6 Nc5+ Ke5 Kb7 Kd6 Ne4+ Ke5 Nc5 Kd6 Ne4+ Ke5 Nc5 Kd6) 0.00/20 7} Bg2
{(f3g2
d5b7 g2f1 b7c6 a5b6 e4c5 e7d6 c5a6 f1h3 a6c7 b6c7 b8b7 c7d8 c6f3 d6c5 ) +0.33/13
10}
83.Kb7 {(Kb7 Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd7 Bc6+ Kd6 Ka7) +0.02/21 11} Bh3 {(g2h3 d5c6 h3f5 b7b8
f5g4
e4c5 ) +0.31/12 7} 84.Ng5 {(Ng5 Bd7 Bc6 Bf5 Ne4 Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd7 Bc6+ Ke6 Ka6 Bb6
Bf3)
+0.02/17 5} Bf5 {(h3f5 d5e4 f5d7 e4c6 a5e1 ) +0.23/13 11} 85.Be4 {(Be4 Bd7 Bc6
Bf5 Ne4
Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd7 Bc6+ Ke6 Kb8) +0.02/20 9} Bd7 {(f5d7 e4c6 d7e6 g5e6 e7e6 c6f3 e6d6
)
+0.14/12 6} 86.Bc6 {(Bc6 Bf5 Ne4 Bxe4 Bxe4 Kd7 Bc6+ Ke6) +0.02/21 5} Be6 {(d7e6
b7a6
a5b6 ) +0.14/13 11} 87.Nxe6 {(Nxe6 Kxe6 Bh1 Ke5 Ka6 Bb6 Kb7 Kd4 Ka6 Kc5 Bg2 Kd6
Bc6
Kc5 Bh1 Kc4) 0.00/22 13} Kxe6 {(e7e6 c6f3 e6d6 ) +0.14/5} 88.Bg2 {(Bg2 Kd6 Ka6
Bc3
Bc6 Ke6 Ka7 Kd6 Kb7 Ba5 Bf3 Kc5 Be2 Kb4 Ka6 Bb6 Kb7 Kb3 Bd1+ Kb4 Ka6) +0.01/21
9}
Kd7 {(e6d7 g2e4 a5b6 e4d5 ) +0.10/14 11} 89.Ka6 {(Ka6 Bc3 Bf1 Kd6 Bd3 Kc5 Kb7
Kd6
b6 cxb6 Kb8) +0.02/19 4} Bb6 {(a5b6 g2e4 d7d6 a6b7 d6c5 ) +0.10/14 6} 90.Kb7
{(Kb7
Kd6 Bf3 Kc5 Bc6 Kd4 Kb8 Ba5 Be8 Ke5 Kb7 Kf4 Bg6 Bb6) +0.02/21 4} Bd4 {(b6d4
g2c6+
d7d6 b7a6 ) +0.14/14 10} 91.Bf3 {(Bf3 Kd6 Be2 Bf2 Kc8 Bd4 Bg4 Kc5 Kxc7 Kxb5 Kb7)
+0.01/21 14} Bc5 {(d4c5 f3e4 d7d6 e4g2 ) +0.12/14 9} 92.Bh5 {(Bh5 Kd6 Bf7 Be3
Ka6 Kc5
Kb7 Kxb5 Bd5) +0.02/20 5} Kd6 {(d7d6 h5f3 c5b6 f3e4 d6e5 ) +0.10/14 9} 93.Bg4
{(Bg4
Be3 Kc8 c6 bxc6 Kxc6 Kd8) +0.02/19 5} Bd4 {(c5d4 g4f3 ) +0.11/14 11} 94.Bf3
{(Bf3
Be5 Ka6 Bf4 Bc6 Kc5 Bg2) +0.02/18 4} Be3 {(d4e3 f3h1 e3g1 h1e4 g1b6 e4f3 b6d4
f3e4
) +0.12/13 6} 95.Be4 {(Be4 Kc5 Bc6 Bf4 Bd7 Kd6 Be8 Kc5 b6 cxb6 Ka7) -0.01/21 15}
Bc5 {(e3c5 e4f3 c5b6 f3c6 d6c5 b7c8 c5d4 ) +0.12/13 6} 96.Bb1 {(Bb1 Bb6 Bg6 Bd4
Bc2
Be5 Ka6 Kc5) +0.02/19 5} Bd4 {(c5d4 b1h7 d6d7 h7f5 ) +0.10/14 11} 97.Bf5 {(Bf5
Be3
Ka6 Kc5 Bc2 Kd6 Bh7 Bf4 Bb1 Kc5) +0.03/19 6} Bf2 {(d4f2 f5e4 f2e3 ) +0.11/14 11}
98.Be4 {(Be4 Bg3 Bg6 Kd5 Ka6 Be1) +0.02/19 5} Bg1 {(f2g1 e4g2 g1b6 ) +0.08/14
11}
99.Bd3 {(Bd3 Bf2 Bf1 Bb6 Bc4 Bf2 Kc8 Kc5 b6 cxb6 Kd7 Kxc4 Kc6 b5 Kd6 b4 Kc7 Bd4
Kb7)
+0.01/21 13} Bb6 {(g1b6 d3e4 d6e5 ) +0.06/14 11} 100.Bg6 {(Bg6 Bf2 Bf7 Be3 Bg8
Kc5)
+0.02/20 4} Kc5 {(d6c5 g6d3 ) +0.05/14 8} 101.Be8 {(Be8 Ba5 Bd7 Kd6 Bf5 Bb6)
+0.02/18 1}
Ba5 {(b6a5 e8d7 c5c4 b7c6 a5b6 ) +0.05/14 11} 102.Ka6 {(Ka6 Bc3 Bc6 Kd6 Bf3 Kc5
Bc6
Kd6 Bf3 Kc5 Bc6 Kd6) 0.00/23 9} Bc3 {(a5c3 e8c6 c3e5 ) +0.20/5} 103.Bd7 {(Bd7
Kd6
Bh3 Bd4 Kb7 Kc5 Kxc7 Kxb5 Kb7) +0.03/20 9} Bd2 {(c3d2 a6b7 d2f4 d7c6 f4d6 c6d7
d6e5
d7c6 e5d6 c6d7 d6e5 d7c6 ) +0.13/14 8} 104.Bc6 {(Bc6 Kb4 Kb7 Bf4 Be8 Kc5 Bg6
Kxb5
Kc8) +0.02/20 12} Bf4 {(d2f4 a6b7 f4g3 b7c8 g3h2 c8d7 ) +0.10/14 7} 105.Bh1
{(Bh1
Be5 Be4 Bc3 Bh7 Bd2 Kb7 Kxb5 Kxc7 Ba5+ Kb7 Bb4 Be4 Bc3 Bd3+ Kb4 Ka7) +0.02/19 5}
Be5 {(f4e5 h1c6 e5d6 c6h1 d6f4 b5b6 c7b6 h1f3 f4e3 f3e2 e3d4 e2f3 d4f2 a6b7 b6b5
b7c7 b5b4 ) +0.12/14 11} 106.Bc6 {(Bc6 Ba1 Bd7 Kd6 Bg4 Bc3 Bf5 Bb4) +0.02/20 7}
Bg3
{(e5g3 a6b7 g3d6 b5b6 c7b6 c6e8 d6e5 e8b5 c5b5 ) +0.10/14 9} 107.Bd7 {(Bd7 Bf2
Bf5 Kc4
Be6+ Kb4 Bh3 Bd4) +0.01/20 10} Bf4 {(g3f4 d7c6 f4d6 a6b7 ) +0.11/14 11} 108.Be6
{(Be6 Kd4 Bf7 Bd6 Kb7 Bf4 b6) +0.03/20 10} Bd6 {(f4d6 e6f5 d6e5 f5e4 e5f6 b5b6
c7b6
e4g6 b6b5 ) +0.24/5} 109.Bh3 {(Bh3 Bf4 Bf1 Kd4 Kb7 Bd6 Bh3 Kc5 Bf1 Be7) +0.01/19
4}
Bh2 {(d6h2 h3f5 h2e5 f5h3 e5f6 a6b7 f6d8 h3d7 ) 0.00/14 10} 110.Bd7 {(Bd7 Bf4
Kb7
Bg3 Kc8 Kd6 Be8 Bh2) 0.00/21 9} Bg3 {(h2g3 a6b7 g3e5 d7c6 e5f4 c6d7 c5d6 )
0.00/14
10} 111.Ka5 {(Ka5 Be1+ Ka4 Kd6 Bg4 Kc5 Bd7 Kd6 Bg4 Kc5 Bd7 Kd6) 0.00/21 11} Be5
{(g3e5 d7c6 e5d4 a5a4 ) +0.21/5} 112.Bh3 {(Bh3 Bd4 Ka6 Kd6 Bg4 c6 b6) +0.02/18
5} Bc3+
{(e5c3+ a5a6 c3d4 h3g2 d4f6 a6b7 f6e5 ) +0.17/13 9} 113.Ka6 {(Ka6 Bf6 Bg2 Be5
Bf3 Bf6
b6 cxb6 Kb7) +0.02/20 5} Bd2 {(c3d2 h3f5 d2e3 a6b7 e3f4 f5d7 f4e5 d7c6 e5d6 b7a6
d6e5 ) +0.12/13 11} 114.Bg4 {(Bg4 Bf4 Be2 Kd4 Bh5 Kc5 Be2 Kd4 Bh5 Kc5 Be2 Kd4)
0.00/21 11} Bb4 {(d2b4 g4e6 b4e1 e6d7 e1f2 a6b7 c5d6 ) +0.07/13 9} 115.Bf3 {(Bf3
Be1
Bb7 Bg3 Be4 Kd4 Bg2 Be5 Bh1 Kc5 Bc6 Ba1 Bd7) 0.00/21 6} Bc3 {(b4c3 f3c6 c3d2 )
+0.08/13 6} 116.Bb7 {(Bb7 Be5 Bg2 Bg3 Bf1 Bf4 Kb7 Kd4 b6 cxb6 Ka6) +0.02/20 6}
Bd4
{(c3d4 b7c6 c5c4 c6f3 d4b6 f3c6 c4d3 c6d5 d3d4 ) +0.09/14 11} 117.Bf3 {(Bf3 Kd6
Bd1
Bb6 Bh5 Kc5 Be8 Kd4 Kb7 Kc3 Kc6) 0.00/21 10} Bf6 {(d4f6 f3e4 c5d4 e4f3 f6e5 )
+0.21/5} 118.Ka5 {(Ka5 Kd4 Ka4 Be5 Bc6 Bf4 Bg2 Kc3 Ka5) +0.01/19 5} Bg5 {(f6g5
a5a6 g5e3
f3e4 c5c4 b5b6 c7b6 e4h1 c4c5 h1e4 e3d4 ) +0.12/13 7} 119.Ka6 {(Ka6 Bf6 Be4 Bh4
Bg6
Kd5 Bh5 Kc4 Be2+ Kd5 Bh5 Kc4 Be2+ Kd5 Bh5 Kc4) +0.02/20 10} Bh6 {(g5h6 a6b7 h6f4
b7a6 f4g3 f3g2 ) +0.08/14 11} 120.Be4 {(Be4 Bg7 Bf5 Be5 Bh7 Bd6 Bg8 Bf4 Kb7 Kxb5
Kc8
c6) +0.01/19 4} Bf8 {(h6f8 a6b7 f8d6 b7a6 d6g3 ) +0.05/14 11} {½-½ User
Adjudication} 1/2-1/2
So Shredder thought the postion was 0.03 or so (While Prode thought it was
-0.50~) instead of 0.00, is this what you are reffering to?
I've seen games lost (By other engines) when the have the option to draw, but
other move gets a 0.08 (Or less but more than 0.00) so they go for it and it
turns out it was -0.19 and eventually they lose.
That is the Horizon effect in action, and it's avoided (more) if you put the
Draw Contemp Factor to 0.09... At least against very strong engines in where
trying to win hurts itself a lot.
This is my idea about DCF, and it turnd out in less loses, more draws and less
wins (But it's worth it).
You might want to try it :)
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