Author: Ross Boyd
Date: 14:46:04 01/02/05
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On January 01, 2005 at 21:00:20, Steve B wrote: >HI Ross > >>Botvinnik is an obvious example of a truly great player who turned his hand to >>building a chess machine. > >yes but he did not succeed because he tried an alogrithm which tried to mimmick >the way a human thinks when he plays chess >this form of computer chess would be agreeable to me >the real improvement in PC chess play occurred when the hardware improved >today its all about the hardware and the speed Programs from the past do not beat the programs of today on equal hardware. Clearly, there have been improvements in evaluation and search methods. But you are right about the elite monsters on custom hardware. Their advantage is mainly due to speed and to a lesser extent a sophisticated evaluation. >its not about chess at all.its about high speed number crunching >it might as well be the Chinese game of GO >if this forum were a computer GO forum ,90% of the posts would be exaclty the >same: >installation issues >programming questions >tournaments held between to progs with no human involvement other then to run >auto 232 and report the results here with cutting and pasting,like a mere pizza >delivery boy >etc.etc. > > >> >>I beg to differ that programmers have no love of the game. For me, it is >>precisely the love of the game that drives me on. > >well there is always the rare exception and i said Most.. not all >:) > > >>On the other hand, we see the human administrative side of chess is filled with >>politics and acrimony. > > >this is of course true but really a seperate topic No, I was talking about the love of the game and the reason for this programmer's involvement in chess. It contrasted nicely with the human side's exploitation of the game. Well, I thought it was a great point. And half expected you to capitulate your side of the argument. Oh well.... never mind. :-) >> >>Chess programmers will continue to take chess to the next level... and the next. >>Aren't you curious to see what chess looks like when played perhaps a 1000 Elo >>stronger than any human has ever achieved? :-) > >oh no >this will not be chess and it is not the next level but rather a different >level >it will be anti-chess >:) No way! It will be chess from the gods.... lauded like correspondence chess compared to OTB. :) But seriously, there is truth in chess. The truth will always remain... and neither man or machine is capable of following the line of truth from beginning to end... we can only attempt to approximate it. And chess hides her truth well... well enough that the game will always hold our interest... way way into the future. Cheers! Ross
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