Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:51:26 01/03/05
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On January 03, 2005 at 11:49:59, Jason Kent wrote: >On January 03, 2005 at 11:29:48, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 03, 2005 at 11:14:15, Jason Kent wrote: >> >>>If Pharaon can score this well at 5' + 5", then it will prove to be a monster at >>>long time controls. >> >>I see no connection. >> >>The only way to know if pharaon3.1 can do better at long time control is by >>testing it. >> >>Maybe previous versions can do better at long time control but it does not prove >>if the last version can do better or cannot do better at long time control. >> >>Uri > >Uri, > >While it is possible the newest "bugfixes" could hurt it's strength, I doubt it. > Pharaon has had a reputation at excellent results in long time controls for >quite some time, and I don't think that will change with a couple bug fixes. >This does look promising to me inspite of your pessimism. Maybe you are >jealous? > >Jason I do not claim nothing about long time control with no evidence. I also think that generally strong programs in blitz are better at longer time control. I remember claims that quark is better at long time control but I see no clear evidence for it based on data. AEGT rating at 40/4 1 Pro Deo 1.0 : 2689 19 22 845 62.4 % 2601 25.9 % 2 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 2679 18 19 1046 60.9 % 2602 26.7 % 3 Aristarch 4.50 : 2639 19 16 1197 53.6 % 2614 28.6 % 4 SOS 4 : 2625 21 18 995 52.9 % 2605 26.1 % 6 Delfi 4.5 : 2617 22 17 990 51.2 % 2608 29.5 % 8 Tao 5.7 b07 : 2592 18 21 966 47.4 % 2610 26.5 % 9 Crafty 19.15 : 2587 24 27 530 42.8 % 2637 30.6 %13 Yace 0.99.87 : 2579 19 22 824 45.6 % 2609 29.4 % 14 Gothmog 1.0 beta 10 : 2564 22 23 741 43.5 % 2609 25.1 % 15 Quark 2.35 : 2522 24 20 773 37.3 % 2612 25.7 % AEGT rating at 40/40 1 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 2679 31 33 334 63.2 % 2585 31.1 % 2 Pro Deo 1.0 : 2678 39 46 204 64.7 % 2573 26.5 % 3 Aristarch 4.50 : 2657 32 32 333 60.1 % 2587 30.6 % 5 Delfi 4.5 : 2638 34 30 324 57.1 % 2588 33.3 % 6 SOS 4 : 2634 38 47 208 65.1 % 2525 25.5 % 9 Tao 5.7 b04 : 2603 37 28 336 51.8 % 2590 31.5 % 10 Crafty 19.15 : 2592 37 26 336 52.2 % 2577 37.2 % 12 Yace 0.99.87 : 2574 28 37 325 47.2 % 2593 33.5 % 16 Quark 2.35 : 2551 31 34 335 43.7 % 2595 27.8 % 18 Gothmog 1.0 B10 : 2546 29 37 327 47.4 % 2564 30.0 % You can see that the order is almost the same and the difference for Quark between 4/40 and 40/40 is estimated to be less than 26 elo for long time controland the possible error at long time control is bigger than 26 elo(I calculated it by head so I hope no mistakes). Yace 57-23=34 Crafty 65-41=24 Tao 70-52=18 Delfi 95-87=8 Sos 103-83=20 Aristarch 117-106=11 Ruffian 157-128=29 Pro deo 167-127=40 Gothmog 42+5=47 (34+24+18+8+20+11+29+40+47)/9=231/9<26 elo You can see the rating lists in and I simply took programs that appear in both lists http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40403012.txt http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/4043012.txt Uri
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