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Subject: Multiple Lines vs a single pV I toss the Gauntlet......

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 01:37:17 01/04/05


I have been chastised here, criticized, and made fun of for suggesting
that Position evaluation of Multiple Lines is wrong.

Some Programmers insist that ONLY an eval of = means a Draw,
and that any.. "0.xx" decimal reading shows an advantage
for one side or another.

They insist that this and this only is correct, and that I should STFU!

So, I CHALLENGE YOU PROGRAMMERS!


Evaluate THIS Position with A-N-Y of your Engines, using ONE
OR Multple Lines.. and tell me which side has the advantage!

I have already done this with several Engines.. using single &
Multiple Lines...
Which Side has the advantage?

1769171286: ,
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 8:

1. ² (0.27): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Nxe5 7.dxe5
Bc5 8.Bxe4 dxe4 9.Nc3 Qxd1
2. = (0.20): 1.d4
3. = (0.19): 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3
4. = (0.16): 1.Nc3 d5 2.Nf3 Nc6
5. = (0.08): 1.e3 d5 2.d4 e6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.c4 Nc6

(,  04.01.2005)

1769171286: ,
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

1. = (0.16): 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 e5 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d4 exd4 5.Ng5 d5 6.Bxd5 Ne5
2. = (0.13): 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bd3 Bb4+ 6.Nbd2 Nbd7 7.0-0
0-0
3. = (0.13): 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 e6 4.Bb5+ c6 5.Bd3 Bb4+ 6.Nbd2 Nbd7 7.0-0
0-0
4. = (0.00): 1.Nc3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nf3 c6 4.Bf4 Qb6 5.Na4 Qb5 6.c3 Nbd7
5. = (-0.06): 1.d3

(,  04.01.2005)

1769171286: ,
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Nd7 6.0-0 Qf6 7.Bb5 c6
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 13/14   00:00:00

(,  04.01.2005)

1769171286: ,
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 19.01:

1.e4
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1.e4 d5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  23kN
1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Bf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  23kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Bf5 4.Bf4
  =  (0.05)   Depth: 7/15   00:00:00  53kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Bf5 4.Bf4 Nbd7
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  132kN
1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Ng4 4.d4 d5
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  286kN
1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e5 Ne4 5.d4 Nxc3 6.bxc3
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:02  735kN
1.e4 Nc6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.Qe2+ Be7 6.Nf3
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:03  1665kN
1.e4 Nc6 2.Nc3 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Bb5 a6 5.Bxc6+ bxc6 6.exd5 cxd5 7.0-0
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:08  4378kN

(,  04.01.2005)

1769171286: ,
[D]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 19.01:

1. = (-0.04): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 Nxe4 4.Bd3 d5 5.Nxe5 Be7 6.0-0 0-0
2. = (-0.10): 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Ne5 Na5 5.Bf4 Bf5
3. = (-0.10): 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Ne5 Na5 5.Bf4 Bf5
4. = (-0.10): 1.Nc3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Ne5 Na5 5.Bf4 Bf5
5. = (-0.06): 1.e3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d4 Bf5 5.Bd3

(,  04.01.2005)




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