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Subject: Re: Fruit2 = Ruffian with source code!

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 03:36:51 01/04/05

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On January 04, 2005 at 03:10:00, Tony Nichols wrote:

>On January 04, 2005 at 02:26:56, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 04, 2005 at 01:31:21, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>I don't mean copy, but strong as Ruffian 1.0.5 and source - this is sensation!!
>>
>>No sensation for me.
>>
>>I predicted before Fruit2 that Fruit will be better than shredder8 in 2007.
>>
>>The good results of Fabian only suggest that the top programs of today are weak
>>because the programmers who work about them are relatively not good programmers.
>>
>>As far as I know no programmer got good results like Fabian in a short time as
>>an amateur(Fabian started to write Fruit in 2003) and I guess that Fabian does
>>not live from chess programming and has another job.
>>
>>>BTW is it joke readme file:
>>>
>>>"Fruit is not fast (in nodes per second) given the little it is
>>>calculating."
>>>
>>>?? Peaks over 2Mnps on my 2 years old PC!
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>I do not think that Fruit can search more than 2M nodes per second on 2 years
>>old PC.
>>
>>Fruit on my A3000 can calculate slightly less than 1 Mnp per second in the
>>opening position.
>>
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>
>  I always read your posts because I appreciate your rational point of view.
>However, I don't think your statement about programmers of top engines being
>poor programmers is justified or fair. While I'm happy that Fruit2 is performing
>so well at such an early stage in it's developement I don't forget other
>programs with similiar promise that hit the wall soon after. Maybe Fruit will go
>on to be the best program ever, But untill then the programmers of the top
>engines should be seen as the best. Don't you agree?

Actually Uri hasn't said that Fruit will be the top program ever. He just said
that it will be better than Shredder 8 in 2007. He didn't say it will be better
than Shredder in 2007. And that's a huge difference since Shredder in 2007 will
have a version of 11 or something......




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