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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 UCI won in all GUI's, but ...

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 10:46:41 01/05/05

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On January 05, 2005 at 11:52:05, Sedat wrote:

>On January 05, 2005 at 06:02:57, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 2005 at 05:54:19, Sedat wrote:
>>
>>>On January 05, 2005 at 05:41:52, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Sedat
>>>>Were conditions indeed identical. I doubt because in some games
>>>>the first move was 1.Sbd2 in other games 9.Sbd2 and this may
>>>>have an influence on the way the engines are using the time
>>>>management.
>>>>Kind regards
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>
>>>For all GUI's the nunn position was same :
>>>
>>>Just under ChessPartner GUI :Gandalf 6.0 UCI did not want to play with :
>>>
>>>[FEN "rn1qk2r/p3bppp/bpp1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1PB2NP1/P3PPBP/RN1QK2R w KQkq d6 0 9"]
>>>
>>>and thats why i decided to create a nunn position under ChessPartner GUI:
>>>
>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 c6 8. Bc3 d5
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Sedat
>>
>>
>>       Hi Sedat
>>       No doubt: the starting position was the same. But it could make
>>       a difference if an engine has play from 1st or 9th move. You
>>       should perhaps repeat the games starting the engines from 9th move.
>>       Kurt
>
>
>Hello Kurt,
>
>
>Yes thats true that there is difference( gaining seconds)in time control between
>from 1st and 9th move .
>
>But we must not forget that:
>
>1)The time control of the games was exactly
>same with this opening from 9 th move (under ChessBase and Arena)and
>again the games are different!
>
>
>2)Under Shredder Clasic and ChessPartner the starting opening was from 1st move
>and again in both GUI's the games are different !
>
>Allmost all we test only the strenght of chess engines,but rarely there are
>people who are testing the GUI's
>
>And my GUI test shows that :
>Under different GUI's the engines are playing different !
>
>Best Regards,
>Sedat


good afternoon sedat  can you say which gui the engines play the strongest.
good luck
gerold.



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