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Subject: Re: petition request for Andrew Williams

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:02:15 01/07/05

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On January 07, 2005 at 08:12:52, Duncan Roberts wrote:

If there would be material win for white within say 60 plies of search from
openings position then:
  a) it would have been found already if winning for white by GM's and
especially by corr players. Hell, even Uri Blass with his autistic logics could
figure it out.
  b) when not winning for white black has some real great compensation
     perhaps black has a mate in 2 or something which my evaluation sees
     tens of plies in advance but your 60 ply beancounter will miss it
  c) a 60 ply material only search will reveal nothing significant as the
position is only evaluated by material. Who knows, perhaps white has a passer on
the 7th row already promoting in 1 step.

Are you sure that you didn't realize all this yet and the other 100 reasons why
it will contribute nothing to science.

Oh i realize again why i hardly read any posting on this forum... ...it's just
such a waste of time. People at kids level...

>a few years ago Andrew and Huber have shown I believe that up to 30 plies there
>is most likely no material win for white. The experiment took about 2 hours for
>Andrew.
>
>Andrew has said that if there is interest on this forum to take his experiment
>further, and find out if this holds true beyond 30 plies, he might look at it
>this weekend.
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/2/message.html?151185
>
>
>I believe that this experiment is worthwhile and can potentially come up with
>some shattering news about chess which would upset the coneventioanal wisdom on
>chess that it is a draw.
>
>
>could people who would like Andrew to conduct his experiment, show their
>interest, by posting  a reply to:
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/2/message.html?151665
>
>saying that they would like him to do the experiment.
>
>Thank you
>
>duncan



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