Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 07:37:47 01/07/05
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On January 07, 2005 at 10:33:39, Duncan Roberts wrote: I'm under the impression you still do not realize how stupid a material only search is. >On January 07, 2005 at 10:02:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On January 07, 2005 at 08:12:52, Duncan Roberts wrote: >> >>If there would be material win for white within say 60 plies of search from >>openings position then: >> a) it would have been found already if winning for white by GM's and >>especially by corr players. > >as only a small percentage of the positions possible withion 60 plies have been >analysed by gms' it is by no means impossible that they have missed something > > > Hell, even Uri Blass with his autistic logics could >>figure it out. >> b) when not winning for white black has some real great compensation >> perhaps black has a mate in 2 or something which my evaluation sees >> tens of plies in advance but your 60 ply beancounter will miss it >> c) a 60 ply material only search will reveal nothing significant as the >>position is only evaluated by material. > >well if there is a pawn to be taken in 60 plys, there is a good chance that the >60 ply search will reveal it. It is useful to know that. black may or may not >have compensation, but if you do not try you will not know. > >>Who knows, perhaps white has a passer on >>the 7th row already promoting in 1 step. > >yes a 60 ply material search will not reveal a material gain on 61 ply. > >and similarly a 34 ply material search will not reveal a material gain on 35 >ply. > >the solution is NOT to not bother trying to go for a 34 ply search, but to first >try to get to the 34 ply search and then later as resources allow to get to the >35 ply search. > > >Rome was not built in a day > >duncan > > > > >> >>Are you sure that you didn't realize all this yet and the other 100 reasons why >>it will contribute nothing to science. >> >>Oh i realize again why i hardly read any posting on this forum... ...it's just >>such a waste of time. People at kids level... > >I appreciate you taking the time to share your vast computer chess knowledge >with this forum. > > >duncan
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