Author: Sedat
Date: 16:49:55 01/07/05
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On January 07, 2005 at 13:07:03, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>Hello
>
>In case you are still amazed why the engines do different moves in differnt GUI
>do the following test:
>
>Two engines with a fixed balanced opening position (no books). Now start a 20
>Game match in the same GUI (choose one) with the same position and the same
>color for each engine, of course learning should be switched off and the time
>for each game should not be too short (eg. 15 min each side)
>
>You will see that you do not get 20 identical games. Not all moves are allways
>reproducable, most chess engines are not deterministic and it is gettiing worse
>if you use dual engines.
>
>Bye
>Ingo
Hi Ingo,
I have done a lot of test,maybe you can do some GUI test ?!
Here is another example -30 minute game per side :
[Event "Arena 1.1"]
[Site "AMD Athlon 2400 @2.21GHz 1024 DDRAM"]
[Date "2005.01.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Thinker 4.7a"]
[Black "Delfi 4.5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C07"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "00:34:25"]
[Variation "Tarrasch, Open, 4.Ngf3 Nf6"]
[TimeControl "1800+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "90"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
{C:\chess\Nunn\test\C07.pgn 1/1 (Thinker 4.7a-Delfi 4.5, AMD Athlon 2400
@2.21GHz1024 , 2005.01.07, 1-0)} 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6 5.exd5 Qxd5
6.Bc4 Qd8
7.O-O cxd4 8.Nb3 Nc6 9.Nbxd4 Nxd4 10.Nxd4 a6 11.Bf4 b5 12.Be2 {+1.00/9} Bb7
{-0.47/12} 13.c4 {+0.70/10} bxc4 {-0.46/11} 14.Rc1 {+0.51/10} Rc8 {-0.46/11}
15.Bxc4
{+0.69/10} Be7 {-0.67/11} 16.Qa4+ {+0.92/10} Qd7 {-0.69/11} 17.Bb3 {+0.80/11}
Bc5
{-0.65/12} 18.Rfd1 {+1.11/11} O-O {-1.21/12} 19.Qxd7 {+1.33/11} Nxd7 {-1.39/15}
20.Nxe6
{+1.29/14} fxe6 {-1.49/15} 21.Bxe6+ {+1.29/13} Kh8 {-1.45/15} 22.Bxd7 {+1.25/14}
Bxf2+
{-1.48/15} 23.Kxf2 {+1.32/14} Rxf4+ {-1.49/14} 24.Kg3 {+1.30/11} Rcf8 {-1.46/14}
25.Rc7
{+1.29/13} Rb4 {-1.48/13} 26.Rd2 {+1.50/10} Rd8 {-1.49/12} 27.a3 {+1.65/10} Rb3+
{-1.38/12} 28.Kf4 {+1.57/12} Rf8+ {-1.43/12} 29.Ke5 {+1.60/11} h6 {-1.41/11}
30.g3
{+1.53/11} Rb8 {-1.51/12} 31.Kd4 {+1.53/11} h5 {-1.63/12} 32.Rf2 {+1.70/12} Rb6
{-1.60/12}
33.b4 {+2.05/12} Rd6+ {-1.63/12} 34.Kc5 {+1.94/12} Rd1 {-1.97/13} 35.Rf5
{+2.11/13}
g6 {-2.07/13} 36.Rf6 {+2.04/12} Rc1+ {-2.30/12} 37.Kd6 {+2.33/12} Rd1+
{-2.47/12}
38.Ke5 {+2.27/11} Rd5+ {-2.47/11} 39.Ke6 {+2.28/12} Rd3 {-2.45/12} 40.Ke5
{+2.32/12}
Rd5+ {0.00/16} 41.Kf4 {+2.34/12} Kg7 {-2.45/12} 42.Rb6 {+2.50/12} Rf8+
{-2.70/12}
43.Bf5+ {+2.61/12} Kh8 {-2.70/12} 44.Kg5 {+2.80/13} Bc8 {-2.96/13} 45.Kh6
{+3.33/14}
Bxf5 {-3.48/16}
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Event "Winboard 4.2.7"]
[Site "AMD Athlon 2400 @2.21GHz 1024 DDRAM"]
[Date "2005.01.07"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Thinker 4.7a"]
[Black "Delfi 4.5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1800"]
[PairNo ""]
1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 Nf6 5. exd5 Qxd5 6. Bc4 Qd8 7. O-O cxd4
8. Nb3 Nc6 9. Nbxd4 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 a6 11. Bf4 b5 12. Be2 Bb7 13. c4 bxc4 14.
Rc1 Rc8 15. Bxc4 Be7 16. Qa4+ Qd7 17. Bb3 Bc5 18. Rfd1 O-O 19. Qxd7 Nxd7
20. Nxe6 fxe6 21. Bxe6+ Kh8 22. Bxd7 Bxf2+ 23. Kxf2 Rxf4+ 24. Kg3 Rcf8 25.
Rc7 Rb4 26. Rd2 Rd8 27. a3 Rb3+ 28. Kf4 Rf8+ 29. Ke5 h6 30. g3 a5 31. Ba4
Re3+ 32. Kd4 Re4+ 33. Kc5 Ba8 34. Bd7 Kh7 35. g4 Re7 36. Kb6 Re5 37. Bf5+
Kh8 38. Rcd7 Bf3 39. Rd8 Rg8 40. R2d6 Be2 41. b3 Rb5+ 42. Kc6 Rb8 43. Rxb8
Rxb8 44. b4 axb4 45. axb4 Kg8 46. Rd4 Bb5+ 47. Kc7 Re8 48. Re4 Rf8 49. Re5
Ba4 50. b5 Rf7+ 51. Kd6 Rb7 52. Bd7 Kh7 53. Bc6 Rb8 54. Kc7 Rf8 55. Be4+
Kh8 56. b6 Rf7+ 57. Kd6 Rd7+ 58. Kc5 Rd8 59. b7 Rb8 60. Kb6 Be8 61. Kc7
Rxb7+ 62. Kxb7 Bf7 63. Kc6
{Black resigns} 1-0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Event "Hiarcs 9 GUI"]
[Site "AMD Athlon 2400 @2.21GHz 1024 DDRAM"]
[Date "2005.01.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Thinker 4.7a Wb2Uci"]
[Black "Delfi 4.5 Wb2Uci"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C07"]
[Annotator "1.56;-1.41"]
[PlyCount "63"]
{W=11.7 ply; 376kN/s B=12.3 ply; 1.031kN/s} 1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4.
Ngf3 Nf6 5. exd5 Qxd5 6. Bc4 Qd8 7. O-O cxd4 8. Nb3 Nc6 9. Nbxd4 Nxd4 10. Nxd4
a6 11. Bf4 b5 12. Be2 Bb7 13. c4 bxc4 14. Rc1 Rc8 15. Bxc4 Be7 16. Qa4+ Qd7 17.
Bb3 Bc5 18. Rfd1 O-O 19. Qxd7 Nxd7 20. Nxe6 fxe6 21. Bxe6+ Kh8 22. Bxd7 Bxf2+
23. Kxf2 Rxf4+ 24. Kg3 Rcf8 25. Rc7 Rb4 26. Rd2 Rd8 27. a3 {Both last book move
} Rb3+ {[%eval -141,12] [%emt 0:01:37]} 28. Kf4 {
(Kf2) [%eval 156,11] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rf8+ {(h6) [%eval -138,11] [%emt 0:00:32]}
29. Ke5 {(Kg4) [%eval 160,11] [%emt 0:00:22]} h6 {
[%eval -141,11] [%emt 0:00:33]} 30. Kd4 {(Ba4) [%eval 154,12] [%emt 0:00:26]}
Rf4+ {(Rf7) [%eval -131,12] [%emt 0:00:26]} 31. Kc5 {
[%eval 154,12] [%emt 0:00:22]} h5 {(Rf7) [%eval -140,13] [%emt 0:01:09]} 32.
Be8 {(g3) adjud. [%eval 165,10] [%emt 0:00:22]}
Best,
Sedat
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