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Subject: Re: Winboard and Arena GUI test !

Author: Sedat

Date: 23:35:23 01/07/05

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On January 08, 2005 at 00:28:09, Brian Richardson wrote:

>On January 07, 2005 at 19:36:24, Sedat wrote:
>
>>On January 07, 2005 at 18:36:56, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On January 07, 2005 at 13:07:03, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello
>>>>
>>>>In case you are still amazed why the engines do different moves in differnt GUI
>>>>do the following test:
>>>>
>>>>Two engines with a fixed balanced opening position (no books). Now start a 20
>>>>Game match in the same GUI (choose one) with the same position and the same
>>>>color for each engine, of course learning should be switched off and the time
>>>>for each game should not be too short (eg. 15 min each side)
>>>>
>>>>You will see that you do not get 20 identical games. Not all moves are allways
>>>>reproducable, most chess engines are not deterministic and it is gettiing worse
>>>>if you use dual engines.
>>>>
>>>>Bye
>>>>Ingo
>>>
>>>If there are nondeterministic single-cpu chess engines, then maybe a better test
>>>for GUIs would be to use simple, open source engines. Do you think a simple,
>>>open source engine such as TSCP is more likely to be deterministic?
>>>
>>>Or does the issue of time cause undeterministic behavior no matter what? i.e.
>>>maybe a background process (system process, firewall, antivirus, etc.) randomly
>>>takes enough CPU time away from a chess engine to cause nondeterministic
>>>behavior?
>>
>>
>>Always while i am running engine-matches :
>>------------------------------------------
>>
>>-No surfing on the Net,no working with Word,not doing some Programming etc.
>>
>>-Before to start each tournament under both GUI's the PC is restarted !
>>
>>-For each GUI was setuped separate (different)folder of engine.exe
>>
>>-No any program is insalled in the TaskBar !
>>
>>Sedat
>
>It might work if you only search to a fixed depth, not based on any time
>controls from the same (e.g., Nunn) starting positions.

Thanks for your interesting...

Yes but day and night i organize tournaments, ratings between chess programs
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/sedatchess/

And thats why i must use time control becouse my goal is to choose exactly under
which GUI will be more stabil for the winboard engines !

Best,
Sedat



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