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Subject: Re: Junior 9 (important endgame weakness) - Junior 8 is stronger!

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 07:51:39 01/08/05

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On January 08, 2005 at 10:24:21, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>Junior9 is a very fine program. One of its main weaknesses
>is however the inability to evaluate correctly pawn endings
>when the opposing program has a passed pawn or can create
>a passed pawn. Below some examples.
>Kurt

That is my opinion too.

>
>Junior9 vs Gandalf 6.0
>White blundered with 25.Rd1?? Rxd1 with a won pawn ending for Black
>[D]3r1k2/1p3ppp/8/1p6/8/5P2/PPP4P/2K4R w - - 0 25
>
>Fritz8 vs Junior9
>Black  chose 33...Qxb4?? just to get a lost pawn ending
>[D]8/5pkp/4pp2/8/qQ6/P5PP/5P2/6K1 b - - 0 33

Neue Partie,
8/5pkp/4pp2/8/qQ6/P5PP/5P2/6K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 8 (on my P3 600 without EGTB!!):

1...Dxb4 2.axb4 Kg6 3.b5 Kf5
  =  (-0.15)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1...Dxb4 2.axb4 Kf8 3.Kg2 Ke7 4.Kf3
  +-  (1.67)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  5kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2 Dd3 3.f4 Kg6
  =  (0.02)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  11kN
1...Dc6 2.a4 Dd5 3.a5 Kg6
  =  (0.01)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  14kN
1...Dc6 2.a4 e5 3.a5 Kg6 4.Db1+ f5 5.Dd3
  ²  (0.45)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  46kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2 f5 3.Dc3+ Kg6 4.f4 De2+ 5.Kg1 De4
  =  (-0.04)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:01  119kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2 Dd5+ 3.Kh2 Da2 4.Dc5 e5 5.h4 Db3 6.f4
  =  (0.01)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:03  1385kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2
  ²  (0.31)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:19  9666kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2 Dd5+ 3.Kh2 Da2 4.Kg1 Dc2 5.a4
  ²  (0.31)   Tiefe: 17   00:01:21  41754kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kh2 Dc2 3.Dd4 h5 4.a4 Dc7 5.h4 e5 6.De4 Dc3 7.Db7 Dc4
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 18   00:03:11  95538kN
1...Dd1+ 2.Kg2 Dd5+ 3.Kh2 Da2 4.Kg1 Dc2 5.a4
  ²  (0.32)   Tiefe: 19   00:07:10  213953kN

>
>Junior9 vs Shredder8
>White played 51.Rb4? after 51... Kc6 52. Rb6+ Kd5
>exchanged rooks 53. Rxe6 Kxe6 54. Kxe4 and lost the pawn ending
>[D]8/2k5/p3r2p/2P5/R3p1p1/4K1P1/7P/8 w - - 0 51

8/2k5/p3r2p/2P5/R3p1p1/4K1P1/7P/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 8 (on my P3 600, without all EGTB!!):

1.c6 Kxc6 2.Txa6+ Kd5
  µ  (-1.40)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.h4 gxh3
  µ  (-0.90)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.Ta1 Te5
  µ  (-0.71)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.Txe4 Txe4+ 2.Kxe4 Kc6 3.Kf4 Kxc5 4.Kxg4
  =  (-0.16)   Tiefe: 3   00:00:00
1.Txe4 Txe4+ 2.Kxe4 Kc6 3.Kf4 Kxc5 4.Kxg4 Kd5 5.Kf3
  =  (0.04)   Tiefe: 6   00:00:00  1kN
1.Txe4 Txe4+ 2.Kxe4 Kc6 3.Kd4 a5 4.Kc4 a4 5.Kb4 a3 6.Kxa3 Kxc5
  ³  (-0.67)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  23kN
1.Ta1 h5 2.Ta4 a5 3.Txa5 Kc6
  ³  (-0.26)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  29kN
1.Ta1 h5 2.Ta4 Kd7 3.Txe4 Txe4+ 4.Kxe4 a5 5.Kd5 a4 6.c6+ Kc7 7.Kc5
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:01  107kN
1.Ta1 h5 2.Ta4 Kb7 3.Tb4+ Kc6 4.Tb6+ Kd5 5.Txe6 Kxe6 6.Kxe4 a5 7.Kd4 Kd7
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:02  767kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 Te8 4.Txe4 Txe4+
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 18   00:00:11  4926kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 h5 4.Tb4+
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 20   00:00:30  13832kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 Kc8 4.Ta1 Kc7 5.Ta4 Kb7 6.Tb4+ Kc6 7.Tb6+
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 22   00:02:06  57109kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 Kc8
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 23   00:04:20  116903kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 Kc8
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 24   00:08:28  227395kN
1.Ta1 Kb8 2.Ta5 Kb7 3.Ta4 h5 4.Ta3
  ³  (-0.31)   Tiefe: 25   00:16:22  438951kN

(Nemeth, Privat 08.01.2005)




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