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Subject: Re: Analysis question for these 2 EPD positions

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 23:43:59 01/08/05

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On January 09, 2005 at 02:32:25, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 09, 2005 at 01:16:03, William Bryant wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2005 at 00:45:33, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>
>>>Following are 2 positions that I would like analyzed so that I can compare the
>>>times it takes to solve these 2 positions on several differnet engines.  Can a
>>>few of you run, using different engines, these 2 positions and report the amount
>>>of time it takes to find the mate move along with the move?  After I get a few
>>>analyses and have had time to review them I will report back with my results.
>>>
>>>Position #1
>>>
>>>[D]1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P2q1/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - -
>>>
>>>Position #2
>>>
>>>[D]1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1Pqp4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - -
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Les
>>
>>My old engine (pretty slow) takes about 3 minutes to find the first one and 1
>>minute to find the second one.
>>
>>The winning line is the same:
>>
>>-327.50  Qxd4+ Re3 Bxg3+ Kg1 Qxe3+ Kh1 Bg2+ Kxg2 Qf2+ Kh1 Rf5 Bf1 Rh5+ Bh3 Rxh3+
>>Nh2 Rxh2+.
>>
>>William
>
>latest movei on A3000 needs alomost 5 minutes to solve the first one but less
>than 20 seconds for the second one(main difference to public version is
>hopefully better history based pruning and correct mate scores when the public
>version evauate mate position as 10000 and not as 32767).

Thank you Uri and hope you have a Happy New Year.  Ok so far I have collected 2
different engines results (waiting to here back from William) and am looking for
about 10 (where is Hiarc, shredder, Junior ChessMaster etc ???)

Les


>
>
>setboard 1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P2q1/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - 0 1
>analyze
> 1 413 1 960 b8g3 f2e3 f8e8 e3d3 g6f4 d3c2 g3e1 d1e1
> 2 415 1 2342 b8g3 f2e3 f8e8 f3e5 g4g5 e3d3 h3f5 d3c3 g5e3 c3b2 e3d4
>2 416 3 5496 g4d4
>2 445 3 5511 g4d4
> 2 1047 3 5658 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1
> 2 1047 3 5818 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1
>3 1017 3 6177 g4d4
>3 947 3 6518 g4d4
> 3 842 3 7132 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1
> 3 842 4 14127 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1
>4 872 4 14146 g4d4
> 4 862 4 16445 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g6f4 e2f1 g3e1 f3e1 h3f1 d2f1
> 4 862 7 37747 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g6f4 e2f1 g3e1 f3e1 h3f1 d2f1
>5 892 7 38120 g4d4
> 5 913 7 44331 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1 e3f2
> 5 913 17 110537 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1 e3f2
>6 883 21 139090 g4d4
> 6 873 28 171830 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 b5c6 b7c6 d1c1 h3f1 h1g1 g3e
>1 e2f1 f8f3 c1e1
> 6 873 64 423633 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 b5c6 b7c6 d1c1 h3f1 h1g1 g3e
>1 e2f1 f8f3 c1e1
>7 903 64 428208 g4d4
> 7 894 84 537767 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 b5c6 b7c6 d1a1 h3g4 h1g1 h6e
>3 g1g2 g4f3 d2f3 f8f3 e2f3
> 7 894 182 1225768 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 b5c6 b7c6 d1a1 h3g4 h1g1 h
>6e3 g1g2 g4f3 d2f3 f8f3 e2f3
>8 924 200 1323516 g4d4
> 8 942 228 1501429 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 d2c4 e3e2 d1e2 f
>4e2
> 8 942 568 3774939 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 d2c4 e3e2 d1e2 f
>4e2
>9 972 571 3793211 g4d4
>9 1042 578 3831721 g4d4
> 9 1107 684 4477707 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e1
>g3e1 f3e2 g8f7
> 9 1107 1957 13162876 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e
>1 g3e1 f3e2 g8f7
>10 1077 2098 14056560 g4d4
> 10 1065 2421 16070542 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4g4 e2f1 g3e1 g1h1 h3f1 d2f1 g6h4 d1
>c2 h4f3 c2g2
> 10 1065 8446 56536976 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4g4 e2f1 g3e1 g1h1 h3f1 d2f1 g6h4 d1
>c2 h4f3 c2g2
>11 1095 8462 56620334 g4d4
> 11 1127 9140 61206807 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 e3h6 h1g1 h6h3 f1
>g3 h3g3 g1h1 f8f3 d1a1 g3h3 h1g1
> 11 1127 26579 180109649 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 e3h6 h1g1 h6h3
>f1g3 h3g3 g1h1 f8f3 d1a1 g3h3 h1g1
>12 1157 26804 181380880 g4d4
>12 1227 27140 183282971 g4d4
> 12 32750 27454 185644758 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5
> e2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2
>
>
>setboard 1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1Pqp4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - 0 1
>analyze
> 1 481 0 9 c5a3
> 2 475 0 120 c5a3 e2f1
>2 476 0 431 c5d4
>2 505 0 446 c5d4
> 2 1047 0 593 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1
> 2 1047 0 679 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1
>3 1017 0 1074 c5d4
>3 947 0 1469 c5d4
> 3 842 0 2023 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1
> 3 842 0 2654 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1
>4 872 0 2673 c5d4
> 4 862 0 5506 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g6f4 e2f1 g3e1 f3e1 h3f1 d2f1
> 4 862 0 6545 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g6f4 e2f1 g3e1 f3e1 h3f1 d2f1
>5 892 1 6941 c5d4
> 5 905 1 13836 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1 f8f2
> 5 905 3 17330 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 g3e1 f3e1 f8f2
>6 875 9 51641 c5d4
> 6 894 12 76270 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 b5c6 f4e2 c6b7 g4f3
> f1f3 f8f3 d2f3
> 6 894 14 90740 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 b5c6 f4e2 c6b7 g4f3
> f1f3 f8f3 d2f3
>7 924 15 92266 c5d4
> 7 891 35 212071 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 h1g1 g6h4 f3h4 h6h4
> 7 891 42 266551 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 e3h6 h1g1 g6h4 f3h4 h6h4
>8 921 43 269723 c5d4
> 8 942 68 436769 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 d2c4 e3e2 d1e2 f4e
>2
> 8 942 85 569211 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 e1f1 g6f4 d2c4 e3e2 d1e2 f4e
>2
>9 972 89 587997 c5d4
>9 1042 93 612366 c5d4
> 9 1107 167 1098800 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e1
>g3e1 f3e2 g8f7
> 9 1107 215 1461805 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e1
>g3e1 f3e2 g8f7
>10 1077 437 2887580 c5d4
> 10 1101 595 3900378 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e1
> g3e1 f3g2 g8f7 f1e3
> 10 1101 706 4729101 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 g4f3 e2f3 e3e1 d1e1
> g3e1 f3g2 g8f7 f1e3
>11 1131 740 4915270 c5d4
> 11 1154 1159 7792597 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 e3h6 h1g1 h6h3 d1c
>2 g4f3 e2f3 g3e1 f3g2
> 11 1154 1476 10205395 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g4 d2f1 e3h6 h1g1 h6h3 d1
>c2 g4f3 e2f3 g3e1 f3g2
>12 1184 1521 10449208 c5d4
>12 1254 1715 11611370 c5d4
> 12 32750 1946 13461807 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 e
>2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2
> 12 32750 2120 14867833 c5d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 e
>2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2



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