Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:52:58 01/09/05
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On January 09, 2005 at 03:40:06, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On January 08, 2005 at 22:35:28, chandler yergin wrote: > >Hi, > >>On January 08, 2005 at 21:40:12, odell jones wrote: >> >>>On January 08, 2005 at 20:21:56, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On January 08, 2005 at 18:00:30, Derek Paquette wrote: >>>> >>>>>We've seen Junior and fritz play kramnik and kasparov,.. fritz more than once. >>>>>Does anyone know if Kasparov/kramnik/topolov will ever get to play Shredder? > >I agree with you that ChessBase should chose a different program than Fritz to >play Kasparov as we saw Fritz more than once, but maybe "someone" in ChessBase >is a fun of Fritz...:-) > >Chess Base should select the program that is the strongest to face the strongest >chess player. > >Since Shredder is leading the SSDF list since years now, we do not see articles >on Chess Base site on this anymore...maybe it is not news anymore:-) > >>>>> >>>>>At the Men vs Machine world championship, shredder was absent. > >Even if asked we would have refused as we had to work on the new Shredder 9. > >>>>> >>>>>when are we going to get to see shredder play a MATCH vs a super grandmaster, >>>>>and a high profile one at that. > >I hope soon! >It is only a hope as, as far as I know, there is nothing planned on this yet. > >>>>> >>>>>Anyone heard anything? Anyone know anything about this subject?? >>>>> >>>>>Why not have the strongest computer program playing the humans, atleast ONCE. > >I agree 100%!! > >>>> >>>> >>>>The ELO Performance Rating of the TOP Programs approaches ELO = 2600 > >This is not correct. > >Not considering Hydra, which has a very powerful hardware and talking about the >top commercial programs the Elo is the following: > >2200 if the opening is very bad and the position is very bad for them; they do >not know how to handle it. It may be interesting to see if there are popular openings that the performance of computers is only 2200. It is possible in order to check it to let humans to choose the opening position with the only restriction that it was played in the last year at least 10 times in GM-GM games. Same for the 3000 and it may be interesting if programs can get performance of 3000 against the best players in some popular opening. I think that a more interesting match may be if 4 games are from the opening position,4 games are from popular opening that people choose and 4 games are from popular opening that the computer team choose. I think that a competition of computers in tournament from some positions that their performance is only 2200 against humans can help because programmers may learn from the games more about the weaknesses of computers. Uri
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