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Subject: Re: Chessbase & Shredder 7 Classic UCI GUIs

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 05:38:11 01/10/05

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On January 10, 2005 at 00:28:51, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>
>I have some GUI & Engine comments and questins.
>
>The most recent software packages I own are: CM8000, and Chessbase's Fritz 7 &
>Shredder 7.  I downloaded most patches or updates online for all of these, when
>they were available.
>
>I use my engines mostly for overnight game analysis, plus some
>Infinite/Continuous Analysis while entering and/or annotating my OTB or online
>slow games.
>
>Eventually, my one year free subscription to Playchess expired, and I don't
>think I can download anymore updates these days (it's been that way for over one
>year).
>
>I didn't download the last available (maybe 2 years ago) Fritz 7 GUI patch that
>I heard improved only the Playchess GUI, since I never use that, except to
>obtain the occasional engine patch version.
>
>The Shredder 7 CD contains both a Chessbase/Fritz/Playchess GUI, plus a Shredder
>Classic 6.0 GUI.
>
>Initially, I experienced some older Chessbase database compatability problems
>when using the Chessbase/Fritz/Playchess GUI that came with Shredder 7.  I
>figured the reason my databases were being corrupted was a different database
>format written by the newer GUIs.
>
>Consequently, I simply used the Fritz 7 and Shredder 7 (now 7.04) engines in my
>older Fritz 6 Chessbase GUI.  Despite not having the latest GUI features, this
>workaround has mostly satisfied my overnight analysis needs until now.
>
>In the last few days, I created new databases using the Shredder 7
>Chessbase/Fritz/Playchess GUI, and appended my games from my older Fritz 6
>Chessbase GUI databases.  I haven't noticed any problems, using the newer GUI
>and the newly created databases, so I am more current, and more satisfied.
>
>Otherwise, I haven't been updating or changing my software for some time (don't
>have Fritz 8, Shredder 8, CM9000 or CM10K, nor any Junior product.  I haven't
>previously taken the time to understand & try to use UCI and/or WB protocols and
>engine versions.
>
>However, today I downloaded Fruit 2.0 (UCI engine), to have another analysis
>engine available with Fritz 7, and Shredder 7.04.  The Shredder website has a
>Shredder Classic 1.1 update available for free trial download on it.  I haven't
>downloaded it yet.
>
>The free download version is apparently limited in functionality, unless a
>registration number is provided.
>
>Does my purchase of Shredder 7 (see above) qualify me to obtain this free
>Shredder Classic 1.1 download and to thereafter freely obtain full
>functionality?
>
>If so, would I use the registration number provided with my original Shredder 7
>package?
>
>What are the next one or two strongest (for overnight analysis) free UCI
>compatible engines I could download?
>
>I run on an AMD 2700 CPU w/ 1GB RAM and Win2K Pro.
>
>Is one perhaps Crafty?  If so, what compilation (& weblink to download) is the
>best overnight analysis version.
>
>I plan to hold out buying new software until perhaps Shredder 9.
>
>Over the last year or two, Shredder 7.04 has been my favorite engine for
>analysis.
>
>Shredder usually seems too optimistic in its eval score for the side with
>advantage; but its suggested moves normally seem more human to me than with
>other engines.
>
>And Shredder's record in comp vs comp tournaments shows it isn't as often wrong
>as the other engines.
>
>It is necessary to take the Shredder 7.04 PV moves with a grain of salt (healthy
>scepticism), especially the ones deeper in the indicated line, since it often
>throws in a clinker probably due to hash table best line move retrieval
>problems.  But that's been a very minor problem for me when reading over the
>overnight game analyses.
>
>I solicit your expert comments on my GUI / Engine setup for overnight analysis
>use.
>
>Any tips would be much appreciated regarding other strong UCI engines to obtain
>and/or other things to try to do or that I need to watch out for.
>
>Thanks,
>--Steve

good morning steve download arena 1.1 and start a nice collection of free
strong engines.

gerold.



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