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Subject: Re: Fruit 2 and endgame play

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:39:55 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 13:31:16, chandler yergin wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 10:54:26, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2005 at 02:33:38, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>In my (private) endgame testsuite Fruit scored better than some programs
>>>with tablebase support (e.g. Junior8 and Crafty).
>
>
>>Quite stunning - it seems,
>>>that excellent search depth compensates TBs!
>
> Your opinion.. Provide evidence!
>
> And my suite has some 5/6 piece
>>>positions were TB access is definitely advantage.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>IMO the 5-piece tablebases are just not that interesting and really not worth
>>that much in terms of elo.
>
>What are the Current ELO Ratings for Top Programs, including yours?
>
>THey represents exact play, and all positions possible are immediatly shown.
>What more can you expect?
>
>
>> A little endgame knowledge can cover most of the
>>positions and be a lot faster too.
>
>Absolute NONSENSE!

Not nonsense.

In most of the position of 5 pieces or less than it computers can find the right
move with no tablebases.

Uri



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