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Subject: Re: Fruit 2 and endgame play

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:53:49 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 18:39:11, chandler yergin wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 18:28:33, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2005 at 17:50:02, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2005 at 17:26:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 13:31:16, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>This is why I keep pestering Skinner to let me download some of them :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And when the 7-man tables are finished? (2010 or so :))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not in your lifetime!
>>>>
>>>>All the essential files will be done before long.
>>>>KQQQQQk is not very interesing, for instance.
>>>>
>>>>>> Computers will become
>>>>>>invincible in the ending, as they win all "simple" endings like KQPPKQP with
>>>>>>ease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>anthony
>>>>>
>>>>>   Not until you get the BUGS out of the Programs.
>>>>>Humans still Rule; NOT Silicon Chips!
>>>>
>>>>Humans also have flaws in their analysis.  Eventually, computers will win every
>>>>game, because humans advance slowly and compute power advances exponentially.
>>>>
>>>>It is simply inevitable
>>>
>>>
>>>Nonsense!
>>
>>Everything above is a fact and your failure to grasp it, has no relevance.
>
>My Claim of "nonsense" is above.. glad you agree with it!
>
>Your failure to grasp the obvious is apalling!
>
>>If
>>you disagree I do not even ask for facts from your part, but at least a reason
>>(even an emotional one) as to why you believe what you believe.  Otherwise, the
>>discussion cannot proceed logically.
>
>Your 'logic leaves a lot to be desired.. so correct, this conversation is ended.
>
>>
>>Maybe you will enjoy this article:
>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1229
>
>YES! I did enjoy the article! IT confirms what I have been saying!
>For some of you 'old Programmers', your ignorance is exceeded only by your
>Arrogance! Try reading the article with some comprehension!
>
>>
>>And this one:
>>http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0408.html?printable=1

You must read the other article also.

Look at the two graphs in Jeff Sonas' article.  You will see a dip in the SSDF
graph.  That is due to a manual subtraction.  By an examination of the curve, it
is very clear that very soon computers will overtake grandmasters.  That
includes even an inexpensive desktop PC, running a standard commercial program
like Shredder.




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