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Subject: Re: Lies.. Damn Lies & Statistics!

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 16:45:49 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 19:41:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>So says Mark Twain....
>>>>
>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation.
>>>>
>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance!
>>>>
>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS!
>>>>Stop your Nonsense!
>>>
>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings.
>>>Man will never fly faster than sound.
>>>Man will never go to the moon.
>>>
>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible.
>>>
>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come
>>>about.
>>
>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that!
>>
>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility!
>>
>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical
>>Question.
>>Would you agree?
>>
>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven".
>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers...
>>
>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers.
>
>Mathematics will not tell you if it is practically possible to solve chess.
>
>>
>>Your perception is in error!
>>
>>THINK!
>>
>>"In a tree,  from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white.
>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does.
>
>Yes but you do not need to analyze everyone of them and no program does it.
>
>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white.
>
>The number of possible games of 3 plies is more than 8000.
>The number of possible positions that you get after 3 plies is smaller because
>1.e4 e6 2.d4 is identical to 1.d4 e6 2.e4
>
>
> Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000
>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all
>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about
>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few.
>
>No
>
>The number of possible games is higher than 10^120


Give or take a few...


>
>The number of total positions is clearly smaller.

I just proved it isn't!


>Maybe 10^40 and it is easy to prove it.

PROVE IT! Stop your absurd assertions!
>
>It does not mean that it is possible to solve chess in our life time but it also
>does not mean that it is impossible.

Of course it does...!

I see you don't understand Mathmatics either!


>
>Uri



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