Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 16:57:17 01/12/05
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On January 12, 2005 at 19:49:13, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 12, 2005 at 19:45:00, gerold daniels wrote: > >>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote: >> >>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote: >>>> >>>>>So says Mark Twain.... >>>>> >>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation. >>>>> >>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance! >>>>> >>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS! >>>>>Stop your Nonsense! >>>> >>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings. >>>>Man will never fly faster than sound. >>>>Man will never go to the moon. >>>> >>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible. >>>> >>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come >>>>about. >>> >>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that! >>> >>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility! >>> >>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical >>>Question. >>>Would you agree? >>> >>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven". >>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers... >>> >>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers. >>> >>>Your perception is in error! >>> >>>THINK! >>> >>>"In a tree, from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white. >>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does. >>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000 >>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all >>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about >>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For >>>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are >>>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that >>>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of >>>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed >>>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!" >>> >>>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this... >>>OR, >>>Re-think your position? >>> >>>HMMMMM? >>>Stop the Nonsense! >>>CY >> >>good evening chess programs have just begun.in 5 years no man will be able to >>beat a good chess program. think of how many men today can beat the top 5 >>engines.as far as the perfect chess program that is many years off with the >>computers of today it won,t happen. but in 4 or 5 years the computer and the >>software that run them will be a lot diff. and so will the language. >> >>good luck gerold. > >Computers will play better but the question is if humans cannot also learn to >play better thanks to better programs to teach them. > >There is a lot of progress in playing strength of chess programs but no progress >or almost no progress in programs to teach humans to play better. > >If somebody in the near future is going to develop a good program to teach the >GM's to play better you may see better results of GM's against computers in >2006-2007. In order for humans to keep up, they must learn exponentially over time. I don't think that they can do this.
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