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Subject: Re: Lies.. Damn Lies & Statistics!

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 17:06:40 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 19:57:17, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 19:49:13, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:45:00, gerold daniels wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>So says Mark Twain....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS!
>>>>>>Stop your Nonsense!
>>>>>
>>>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings.
>>>>>Man will never fly faster than sound.
>>>>>Man will never go to the moon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come
>>>>>about.
>>>>
>>>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that!
>>>>
>>>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility!
>>>>
>>>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical
>>>>Question.
>>>>Would you agree?
>>>>
>>>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven".
>>>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers...
>>>>
>>>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers.
>>>>
>>>>Your perception is in error!
>>>>
>>>>THINK!
>>>>
>>>>"In a tree,  from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white.
>>>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does.
>>>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000
>>>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all
>>>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about
>>>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>>>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For
>>>>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are
>>>>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that
>>>>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of
>>>>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed
>>>>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!"
>>>>
>>>>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this...
>>>>OR,
>>>>Re-think your position?
>>>>
>>>>HMMMMM?
>>>>Stop the Nonsense!
>>>>CY
>>>
>>>good evening chess programs have just begun.in 5 years no man will be able to
>>>beat a good chess program. think of how many men today can beat the top 5
>>>engines.as far as the perfect chess program that is many years off with the
>>>computers of today it won,t happen. but in 4 or 5 years the computer and the
>>>software that run them will be a lot diff. and so will the language.
>>>
>>>good luck gerold.
>>
>>Computers will play better but the question is if humans cannot also learn to
>>play better thanks to better programs to teach them.
>>
>>There is a lot of progress in playing strength of chess programs but no progress
>>or almost no progress in programs to teach humans to play better.
>>
>>If somebody in the near future is going to develop a good program to teach the
>>GM's to play better you may see better results of GM's against computers in
>>2006-2007.
>
>In order for humans to keep up, they must learn exponentially over time.
>I don't think that they can do this.

Computer "store & retrieve"... they have NO intelligence!
They are a TOOL!
Get it?
Humans advance Theory... Computers Store & retrieve it!
DUH!




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