Author: chandler yergin
Date: 17:06:40 01/12/05
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On January 12, 2005 at 19:57:17, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 12, 2005 at 19:49:13, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On January 12, 2005 at 19:45:00, gerold daniels wrote: >> >>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>So says Mark Twain.... >>>>>> >>>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation. >>>>>> >>>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance! >>>>>> >>>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS! >>>>>>Stop your Nonsense! >>>>> >>>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings. >>>>>Man will never fly faster than sound. >>>>>Man will never go to the moon. >>>>> >>>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible. >>>>> >>>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come >>>>>about. >>>> >>>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that! >>>> >>>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility! >>>> >>>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical >>>>Question. >>>>Would you agree? >>>> >>>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven". >>>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers... >>>> >>>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers. >>>> >>>>Your perception is in error! >>>> >>>>THINK! >>>> >>>>"In a tree, from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white. >>>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does. >>>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000 >>>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all >>>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about >>>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For >>>>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are >>>>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that >>>>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of >>>>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed >>>>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!" >>>> >>>>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this... >>>>OR, >>>>Re-think your position? >>>> >>>>HMMMMM? >>>>Stop the Nonsense! >>>>CY >>> >>>good evening chess programs have just begun.in 5 years no man will be able to >>>beat a good chess program. think of how many men today can beat the top 5 >>>engines.as far as the perfect chess program that is many years off with the >>>computers of today it won,t happen. but in 4 or 5 years the computer and the >>>software that run them will be a lot diff. and so will the language. >>> >>>good luck gerold. >> >>Computers will play better but the question is if humans cannot also learn to >>play better thanks to better programs to teach them. >> >>There is a lot of progress in playing strength of chess programs but no progress >>or almost no progress in programs to teach humans to play better. >> >>If somebody in the near future is going to develop a good program to teach the >>GM's to play better you may see better results of GM's against computers in >>2006-2007. > >In order for humans to keep up, they must learn exponentially over time. >I don't think that they can do this. Computer "store & retrieve"... they have NO intelligence! They are a TOOL! Get it? Humans advance Theory... Computers Store & retrieve it! DUH!
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