Author: Uri Blass
Date: 17:13:48 01/12/05
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On January 12, 2005 at 20:06:40, chandler yergin wrote: >On January 12, 2005 at 19:57:17, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On January 12, 2005 at 19:49:13, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:45:00, gerold daniels wrote: >>> >>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>So says Mark Twain.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS! >>>>>>>Stop your Nonsense! >>>>>> >>>>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings. >>>>>>Man will never fly faster than sound. >>>>>>Man will never go to the moon. >>>>>> >>>>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible. >>>>>> >>>>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come >>>>>>about. >>>>> >>>>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that! >>>>> >>>>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility! >>>>> >>>>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical >>>>>Question. >>>>>Would you agree? >>>>> >>>>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven". >>>>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers... >>>>> >>>>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers. >>>>> >>>>>Your perception is in error! >>>>> >>>>>THINK! >>>>> >>>>>"In a tree, from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white. >>>>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does. >>>>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000 >>>>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all >>>>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about >>>>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For >>>>>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are >>>>>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that >>>>>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of >>>>>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed >>>>>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!" >>>>> >>>>>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this... >>>>>OR, >>>>>Re-think your position? >>>>> >>>>>HMMMMM? >>>>>Stop the Nonsense! >>>>>CY >>>> >>>>good evening chess programs have just begun.in 5 years no man will be able to >>>>beat a good chess program. think of how many men today can beat the top 5 >>>>engines.as far as the perfect chess program that is many years off with the >>>>computers of today it won,t happen. but in 4 or 5 years the computer and the >>>>software that run them will be a lot diff. and so will the language. >>>> >>>>good luck gerold. >>> >>>Computers will play better but the question is if humans cannot also learn to >>>play better thanks to better programs to teach them. >>> >>>There is a lot of progress in playing strength of chess programs but no progress >>>or almost no progress in programs to teach humans to play better. >>> >>>If somebody in the near future is going to develop a good program to teach the >>>GM's to play better you may see better results of GM's against computers in >>>2006-2007. >> >>In order for humans to keep up, they must learn exponentially over time. >>I don't think that they can do this. > >Computer "store & retrieve"... they have NO intelligence! >They are a TOOL! >Get it? >Humans advance Theory... Computers Store & retrieve it! >DUH! computers also advance theory and part of the novelties that GM played are thanks to analysis with computers. Uri
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