Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 18:23:08 01/12/05
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On January 12, 2005 at 21:15:12, chandler yergin wrote: >On January 12, 2005 at 20:52:54, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On January 12, 2005 at 20:34:47, chandler yergin wrote: >> >>>On January 12, 2005 at 20:13:48, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On January 12, 2005 at 20:06:40, chandler yergin wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:57:17, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:49:13, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:45:00, gerold daniels wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>So says Mark Twain.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS! >>>>>>>>>>>Stop your Nonsense! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings. >>>>>>>>>>Man will never fly faster than sound. >>>>>>>>>>Man will never go to the moon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come >>>>>>>>>>about. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical >>>>>>>>>Question. >>>>>>>>>Would you agree? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Some say.. "It can't be Proven". >>>>>>>>>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Your perception is in error! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>THINK! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"In a tree, from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white. >>>>>>>>>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does. >>>>>>>>>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000 >>>>>>>>>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all >>>>>>>>>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about >>>>>>>>>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>>>>>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, >>>>>>>>>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For >>>>>>>>>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are >>>>>>>>>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that >>>>>>>>>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of >>>>>>>>>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed >>>>>>>>>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this... >>>>>>>>>OR, >>>>>>>>>Re-think your position? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>HMMMMM? >>>>>>>>>Stop the Nonsense! >>>>>>>>>CY >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>good evening chess programs have just begun.in 5 years no man will be able to >>>>>>>>beat a good chess program. think of how many men today can beat the top 5 >>>>>>>>engines.as far as the perfect chess program that is many years off with the >>>>>>>>computers of today it won,t happen. but in 4 or 5 years the computer and the >>>>>>>>software that run them will be a lot diff. and so will the language. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>good luck gerold. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Computers will play better but the question is if humans cannot also learn to >>>>>>>play better thanks to better programs to teach them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There is a lot of progress in playing strength of chess programs but no progress >>>>>>>or almost no progress in programs to teach humans to play better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If somebody in the near future is going to develop a good program to teach the >>>>>>>GM's to play better you may see better results of GM's against computers in >>>>>>>2006-2007. >>>>>> >>>>>>In order for humans to keep up, they must learn exponentially over time. >>>>>>I don't think that they can do this. >>>>> >>>>>Computer "store & retrieve"... they have NO intelligence! >>>>>They are a TOOL! >>>>>Get it? >>>>>Humans advance Theory... Computers Store & retrieve it! >>>>>DUH! >>>> >>>>computers also advance theory and part of the novelties that GM played are >>>>thanks to analysis with computers. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>YES! Advanced Chess is where New Theory will come from... >>>Humans USING Computers! NOT Computers advancing Theory by themselves... >>>The Poor Creatures have NO INTELLIGENCE! They rely on Humans... >>>Don't they? >> >>They rely on humans for now. Eventually, they will program themselves and do it >>much better than us. By the year 2049 a single computer will have the >>intelligence of every human on earth put together. > >MORE NONSENSE! You sound like Graham Laight! >They will NOT even be Close! > >This is the "Dumbest Post" I've seen ya make! > > >> We will be pitifully stupid >>by comparison. > > >LUDICRIOUS! >I scoff.. with good reason >That Concept is IDIOCY! > >> >>In twenty years, I doubt if humans will have any clue compared to a computer as >>far as chess analysis is concerned. It will be like a 5 year old trying to play >>Kasparov. > >YOU, are sounding like a 4 year old... >Pouting in the Closet.. when his mother told him "There is no Santa Claus.." >He pouts and cries.. and says.. "I wish you hadn't told me." > >Well I've told ya! > >Go hide your Easter Eggs... > > > What can he tell Kasparov that he does not already know? >> >>Obviously nothing at all. You have a funny argument style. You have no facts to add or even logical assertions based upon the relevant available facts so you end up acting in a very silly manner. Indeed, I find it very amusing.
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