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Subject: Food for thought

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 19:07:30 01/12/05

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On January 12, 2005 at 19:27:05, chandler yergin wrote:

>On January 12, 2005 at 19:11:12, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2005 at 19:04:31, chandler yergin wrote:
>>
>>>So says Mark Twain....
>>>
>>>You Programmers are spreading lies, misinformation, & disinformation.
>>>
>>>However I should not attribute to Malice, what can be explained by Ignorance!
>>>
>>>Computers will NEVER SOLVE CHESS!
>>>Stop your Nonsense!
>>
>>If man were meant to fly, he'd have wings.
>>Man will never fly faster than sound.
>>Man will never go to the moon.
>>
>>Things that seem impossible quickly become possible.
>>
>>In this particular case, it is even obvious mathematically how it will come
>>about.
>
>If you understood Mathmatics, you wouldn't say that!
>
>It IS Obvious, that it's an Impossibility!
>
>The Question of "whether or not God exists" is a Philosophical & Meataphysical
>Question.
>Would you agree?
>
>Some say.. "It can't be Proven".
>With a Philosophical Question, there are NO 'right or wrong' answers...
>
>With Mathmatics, there ARE 'right & wrong' answers.
>
>Your perception is in error!
>
>THINK!
>
>"In a tree,  from the Starting Position, there are 20 possible moves for white.
>There are 20 * 20 = 400 possible moves for black, depending on what white does.
>Then there are 400 * 20 = 8,000 for white. Then there are 8,000 * 20 = 160,000
>for black, and so on. If you were to fully develop the entire tree for all
>possible chess moves, the total number of board positions is about
>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
>000,000,000,000, or 10^120, give or take a few. That's a very big number. For
>example, there have only been 10^26 nanoseconds since the Big Bang. There are
>thought to be only 10^75 atoms in the entire universe. When you consider that
>the Milky Way galaxy contains billions of suns, and there are billions of
>galaxies, you can see that that's a whole lot of atoms. That number is dwarfed
>by the number of possible chess moves. Chess is a pretty intricate game!"
>
>NOW, Do you want to "Disprove" this...

Intricate?? Not really, the game is more or less made up of only about 8 types
of moves.  You seem to enjoy talking about what is impossible so I want to give
you something to think about.  Suppose I told you that I can store up to 120
chess positions with the analyses using < 400 bits!! (just about 3.3
bits/position.  Using your in depth knowledge of math do you think thats
possible???.  I mean anyone knows you can only store 2 pieces of information per
bit, Right?? BTW the symbol "<" means less than if you didnt know.


>OR,
>Re-think your position?
>
>HMMMMM?
>Stop the Nonsense!
>CY



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