Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 23:29:09 01/22/99
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On January 23, 1999 at 00:41:53, Will Singleton wrote:
>On January 22, 1999 at 21:55:21, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>
>>Yes he can say that he suspect one person is cheating, but you do not have the
>>right to name who you suspect is cheating. How would you like it if I posted a
>>post that said "Dann Corbit Cheats in ICC" and within the post I wrote that
>>looking at your games I suspected you of cheating, You would not like that would
>>you.
>>
>
>But Dann doesn't cheat. The other fellow does. There's a lot of cheating on
>ICC. Another fellow cheated on me tonight. Do you care?
>
>I have posted my analysis of the cheater "BillClinton." Where is your rebuttal?
>
>Will
You are concerned about a guy you don't name, but the name you use instead is
attached to a real account.
So instead of using the real account name, which some people objected to for
whatever reasons (note that I am not one of those who objected, all I did was
ask you to be more specific because I wanted to look at the games myself), you
use a made-up name, which happens to be a name actually in use on ICC, so some
random guy is being accused of cheating now.
I don't "object" to this so much as tell you that this is what is happening,
since I assume that you don't know this, otherwise you wouldn't accuse someone
who is an innocent bystander, in order to avoid accusing someone who is at least
involved and who may actually be guilty of doing what you suggest he does.
So you may wish to change the alias to "[name deleted]" or something, which I
predict will save some future hassle. It is amazing how many aliases are taken.
But while we are on this subject of cheating, how about this:
If you think someone is cheating on ICC, save the game in your library ("help
library"), and then look at it carefully, and perhaps go through the rest of the
games the guy has played and see if you notice something funny about those, and
if you do, you may wish to save those in your library as well. Then, ask a
random admin if there have been complaints about this guy using a computer.
Sometimes they already know and are working on nailing the guy down already,
which makes an additional complaint redundant. Assuming this is a new possible
cheater, you can then message "speedtrap" with pointers to games in your
library, and an explanation of why you think the guy is bogus.
What will happen then is that the guy will continue getting away with it for a
while longer, but at least people will be watching him, and they'll be a note
made of it. It has been my experience that they work hard on this, and the work
is time consuming. I don't know what they do, but hard work and time consuming
implies to me a good liklihood of careful and accurate.
I've complained about a *lot* of guys. Some guy gets his new P2/450 and he
wants to blast something strong, and the GM's won't play him because he's rated
2400 and wants to play a 5 15 or something, so guess who he ends up playing --
one of the higher rated computers, and I have one of those.
I have found that speedtrap is pretty responsive, and I can't think of any cases
where someone maintained non-C status very long after I complained after having
taken the time to document and verity my own complaint.
Time spent and care taken by you can't help but help. They do want to catch
computer cheaters. What they do once they catch them is put a C on them, which
I find to be not fully satisfactory, but at least something *does* get done.
bruce
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