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Subject: Re: "chess" cannot be solved...You Don't Know What You're Talking About!

Author: Alan McCracken

Date: 01:46:31 01/16/05

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On January 16, 2005 at 04:21:27, Madhavan wrote:

>On January 16, 2005 at 03:16:27, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>To solve a game is to prove the result with best play for both sides.  It's a
>>term with precise meaning.
>>
>>Tic tac toe is solved (it's a draw).  Connect Four is solved (it's a win for the
>>first player).  Chess and Checkers are not solved.  It is theoretically possible
>>to solve chess, you'd just have to do a very vey deep alpha-beta search.  It is
>>not possible to consider doing this now, and probably won't be for the
>>foreseeable future.
>>
>>So what we are left to discuss is strength in practical play, which has nothing
>>to do with solving chess.
>
>
>playing the best move for both sides?what are you talking about?
>how can you determine which one is the best move to select?
>by running an infinite analysis and making a move?i would suggest you to play
>some correspondance chess over the net
>making the best move that can be made for both white and black may not end in
>draw,in some cases white will have advantage over black
>can you please post the game that has no slight errors on both sides
>
>
>>bruce

If both White and Black choose "Best Moves" to _ALL_ moves, then the game will
end in a draw. However, if either White or Black play into a "Book" line which
either side may have inferior moves, then the result isn't proof that that the
game is _NOT_ a draw! White will win with the better lines or Black will win
with the better lines...it depends which side took the _Inferior_ route. IE
whoever makes a less than "Best Move" or at least "Best Move" relative to a
given opening and assuming the rest are "Best Moves" the side that made less
than the "Optimum" move will run the risk of lost. It's that simple.

Best Moves _will_ result in a draw, no waffling.

IGM;-)



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