Author: chandler yergin
Date: 12:37:49 01/16/05
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On January 16, 2005 at 10:49:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On January 16, 2005 at 01:15:36, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2005 at 23:19:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 2005 at 20:24:04, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 2005 at 20:16:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 15, 2005 at 12:29:40, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>New game,
>>>>>>{D]7k/8/8/8/8/8/N7/KB6 w - - 0 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. +- (#29): 1.Kb2
>>>>>>2. +- (#30): 1.Nc3
>>>>>>3. +- (#30): 1.Nb4
>>>>>>4. +- (#30): 1.Bc2
>>>>>>5. +- (#30): 1.Bd3
>>>>>>6. +- (#31): 1.Nc1
>>>>>>7. +- (#31): 1.Be4
>>>>>>8. +- (#32): 1.Bf5
>>>>>>9. +- (#32): 1.Bg6
>>>>>>10. = (0.00): 1.Bh7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(, 15.01.2005)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Instantaneous! I don't care how 'deep' in the search.. once into the EGTB,
>>>>>>it's there!
>>>>>
>>>>>Completely irrelevant. You have to first _reach_ that position, and if you
>>>>>reach it wrongly, you reach it in a drawn position.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's why the Analysis module seaches E-V-E-R-Y Move in a pV
>>>
>>>This would be much more interesting if you had any idea about what you are
>>>talking about. A disk I/O takes about 5ms. 20 egtb probes in a search will
>>>burn 1/10th of a second. 200 probes will burn a second. That is _not_
>>>instantaneous. For a program searching 2M nodes per second, the speed can slow
>>>down to 20,000 nodes per second easily given the right position.
>>
>>
>>Zeno's Paradox...
>>
>>Let's say you are sitting next to your wife or girfriend...
>>
>>You slide halfway to her...
>>
>>
>>Then you slide half way closer again...
>>
>>Then get halfway again...
>>
>>Theoretically, you will NEVER Reach her...
>
>This is _absolutely_ wrong. Any good integral calculus book will show you why.
>
>hint:
>
>The limit of X = 1/2 + 1/4 + ... + 1/2^n for N=infinity is exactly one. Theory
>is quite clear there.
>
>Now if you mean "practically you will never get there" then you would be right.
>But if you do the 1/2 step enough times, you will get there.
You Will NOT! You will NEVER Get there!
That, IS the Paradox...
You, learn some Math!
Re-think your position, and DO some Math....
then.. apologize at your leisure!
It is just that
>"enough" will take forever.
>
>>
>>BUT; you will get close enough for Practical purposes.
>>
>>STOP YOUR CRAP!
>
>Learn some math...
>
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>If there are 50 "Possible" moves in a position.. it will search
>>>>deeper and deeper... Subject to your Alpha Beta Algorithm of course...
>>>>
>>>>Which may or not be correct...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course ya have to reach the position!
>>>>Depending on the Static Positional Values Programmed in...
>>>>in a Quiscent NON - Forcing position, and different engines may evaluate the
>>>>position differntly.
>>>>
>>>>Right? You know I'm right!
>>>
>>>Hardly...
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