Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 20:11:10 01/20/05
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On January 20, 2005 at 22:43:29, Steve B wrote: >> >>Considering the game scores of Hitech, what is it that you like about them that >>you do not like about contemporary computer chess programs? > >i havent reviewed Hitechs games in a very long time > >the thing that impresses me is the ability to play at IM level strength while at >the same time not employing vast amounts of hardware ,dizzying clock speeds and >only a single processor(not 512 processors) The hardware expenditure for Hitech is at least 100x what you would spend for a personal computer. It was a titanic investment in effort and hardware. The NPS is commensurate with some contemporary programs on a modern PC. While there are programs that will get 10x that NPS speed on the machine I am typing this message from, there are also programs that will get barely over that mark. >other then the ability to play at fantasy level 2800 Elo levels what impresses >you about your pc programs? Exactly the same as a great super GM: Wonderful moves. When you are watching a chess game and you say to yourself, "WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT?!" And then you puzzle over it and puzzle over it. After eons of study you finally figure out what was going on. Those are the beautiful things about the super GM games and the top PC games (so I guess I am a 'brilliancy' fan). I see no difference in the brilliancies between those of programs and those of humans. Of course, I am not a chess expert so perhaps the important nuances may be lost on me. Be that as it may, I know I extract the value I desire out of my own enjoyment of the sport. >is it just the program of the day that wins above all other programs that grabs >your admiration or is it more? I will not notice the difference between a 2500 Elo program and a 2800 Elo program (SSDF) just by watching them play or by playing against them (any more than I could tell if it was Mike Tyson or George Forman who was socking me in the head if the lights were turned out). But I know when I see a move that I like. And I also appreciate a program that is able to give me understanding of a position by deep analysis that would be much harder for me to understand by myself. I enjoy solving chess puzzles, and I like to verify them with computers and also to search for new possible solutions. I have several hundred (not an exaggeration) chess programs. I think I have every contemporary professional PC program except CS-Tal and I also have every free UCI and Winboard program. I just bought another chess program (Gandalf) five minutes ago. I will buy more chess programs in the future. I enjoy each chess program for its own qualities. I enjoy the weak ones as much as the strong ones. I know I will probably lose, but I still like to try against Shredder on a fast machine. And I also enjoy playing against engines that are closer to my ability and once in a while I play also some easy punching bags. I like the chess database programs to see how Napolean played or Humphrey Bogart or to examine the Orangutan or whatever. I expect that you have different needs and because of this you do not enjoy them as much as I do. In the same way, some people like modern art and some perfer classical art (I'm a classical guy myself). That does not mean that the modern art is not just as good as the classical -- only that I fail to appreciate it as much as I can the classical.
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