Author: Uri Blass
Date: 21:43:51 01/20/05
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On January 20, 2005 at 10:42:40, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On January 20, 2005 at 10:28:05, Matthias Gemuh wrote: > >>On January 20, 2005 at 08:30:44, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>is this an insider joke ? >> >> >> >>The Crafty clone is no more an issue in the scene. >>Why should someone want to beta test it ? ;) >> >>/Matthias. > >chinito is no crafty clone. >he used parts of crafty. this is what many (amateur-)programmers do >from time to time to TRY OUT things, or to be lazy concerning certain >areas ... but after a time of experience those programmers mostly throw the >parts from crafty overboard because they found them inefficient. I think that he started by changing Crafty and it is different than only using parts of Crafty. I think that it will not be easy for him to throw parts of crafty because he does not understand a lot of parts. > >IMO a crafty clone is something different. when somebody takes the whole >program, changes a few things and comes with HIS name instead of crafty. I got the impression that it is the case with Elchinito. Of course it is not identical to Crafty because he changed things but changing small part of a program is enough to make it play in a significantly different way. For example if you only change the evaluation of Crafty and do not change other parts then you have a crafty clone and the evaluation is only a minority of Crafty's code. > >with chinito or Eugen it is different. >eugen was a strong program long before crafty code was implemented. I read claims that eugen was a clone of gnuchess. > >As long as chinito plays different then crafty of course people would like to >betatest it. I agree with it and I do not claim that Elchinito plays the same as Crafty. > >IMO you are shallow when you make your jokes. >but you can continue like this, of course. > >for me chinito (or eugen) are interesting programs and of course i do like to >test them and this because the programmer, eugenio castillo gives the programs >something unique that has nothing to do with crafty source code. if crafty would >have "this", i would test crafty too. but this is not the case. I understand it but the fact that a program has something new that you like does not contradict the fact that it is a clone. Uri
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