Author: Harald Faber
Date: 23:29:49 01/20/05
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On January 20, 2005 at 15:12:16, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>I belive not that J9 is stronger than Junior 8 (see SSDF against S8).
These games are further reasons why games on the CB server are not interesting
for me.
>Junior 8 on only 600 MHZ
>Junior 9 on 2 GHz
>
>
>[Event "Wertungspartie,"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2005.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Solist, Junior 8"]
>[Black "Shupa, Junior 9"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B21"]
>[WhiteElo "2335"]
>[BlackElo "2545"]
>[PlyCount "44"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>
>1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. d4 {0} cxd4 {0} 3. c3 {0} dxc3 {0} 4. Nxc3 {0} Nc6 {0} 5.
>Nf3 {0} e6 {0} 6. Bc4 {0} Qc7 {0} 7. Qe2 {0} Nf6 {0} 8. e5 {0} Ng4 {0} 9. Bf4 {
>0} f6 {0} 10. Nb5 {0} Qa5+ {27} 11. Bd2 {0.29/13 0} Qb6 {0.48/13 17} 12. exf6 {
>21} gxf6 {0.54/12 11} 13. O-O {
>Solist reklamiert Gewinn wegen Verbindungsabbruch 19} h5 {1.21/14 154} 14. Bf4
>{38} e5 {2.08/14 43} 15. h3 {1} Kd8 {2.21/12 24} 16. hxg4 {19} exf4 {2.60/14 18
>} 17. Bf7 {1} Bc5 {2.72/14 81} 18. gxh5 {25} Rf8 {2.73/14 43} 19. Bg6 {13} Ne5
>{3.03/14 33} 20. Rad1 {50} Nxf3+ {3.37/15 10} 21. gxf3 {20} Rh8 {3.43/14 0} 22.
>a4 {17} Bb4 {Shupa,Junior 9 rinde (Lag: Av=0.27s, max=0.6s) 3.53/13 10} 1-0
1. 6...Qc7 in te Junior 9 book has 0%, 6...a6 has 100% (when set book options to
"optimal")
2. The Junior 9 book ends after 7.Qe2
3. 11...Qb6 is never considered here on my machine:
r1b1kb1r/pp1p2pp/2n1pp2/qN2P3/2B3n1/5N2/PP1BQPPP/R3K2R b KQkq - 0 1
Analysis by Junior 9:
11...Dxd2+ 12.Sxd2 Sxf2 13.Dxf2 fxe5
+- (7.13) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
11...Db4 12.Sc7+ Kd8 13.Lxb4 Lxb4+
+- (5.82) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
11...Dd8 12.exf6
² (0.52) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
11...Lb4 12.0-0 0-0
² (0.52) Tiefe: 12 00:00:07 11317kN
11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2 13.Sxd2 Scxe5 14.f4 d5 15.fxe5 Db6+ 16.Kh1 Sxe5 17.Lb3 Ld7
18.Sc3 Tc8 19.Tae1
² (0.63) Tiefe: 14 00:00:59 88724kN
4. 13...h5 is never seriously considered on my machine:
r1b1kb1r/pp1p3p/1qn1pp2/1N6/2B3n1/5N2/PP1BQPPP/R4RK1 b kq - 0 1
Analysis by Junior 9:
13...h5 14.Dd3
± (0.89) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...h6 14.Dd3
± (0.84) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...f5 14.Dd3
± (0.80) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...e5 14.Dd3
± (0.73) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...d5 14.Lxd5 Sxh2 15.Lxe6
² (0.49) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2
³ (-0.67) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2 15.Dd3
= (-0.22) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00 5kN
13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2 15.Tab1 Da3 16.De4 f5 17.Dd3
² (0.28) Tiefe: 8 00:00:00 131kN
13...a6 14.Sc3 Le7 15.Ld3 d5 16.Sa4 Dc7 17.Le3
² (0.47) Tiefe: 11 00:00:02 2851kN
13...a6 14.Sc3 Dc5 15.h3 Sge5 16.Sxe5 Dxe5 17.Ld3 Lc5 18.Dxe5 Sxe5 19.Le4
± (1.21) Tiefe: 14 00:02:30 225180kN
So finally this was something like a book win for white. In an early stage of
the game - around move 10 I'd say - the position looks very dubious for black,
considering completed piece development for white while black did not castle nor
push the bishops.
I do not feel to take this game to say that Junior 9 is not stronger than Junior
8 just because one operator on the CB server chose the wrong options (my
assumption is that the CB GUI causes this dubious behaviour) or used another
book (or an "optimized" one).
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