Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 00:21:13 01/21/05
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On January 21, 2005 at 02:29:49, Harald Faber wrote:
>On January 20, 2005 at 15:12:16, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>I belive not that J9 is stronger than Junior 8 (see SSDF against S8).
>
>
>These games are further reasons why games on the CB server are not interesting
>for me.
I play longer Timecontrols too!
Soeben habe ich 2 Partien auf CB mit S704 gespielt. Eine mit Schwarz remisiert,
und eine mit weiss gegen denselben Gegner gewonnen.
Meine Hardware: P3 600
Opponent: Duron 1,2 GHz.
Hier die gewonnnene:
[Event "Wertungspartie, 60m + 0s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2005.01.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Solist, Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "Alexxz_, Zerberus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[WhiteElo "2325"]
[BlackElo "2538"]
[PlyCount "247"]
[EventDate "2005.01.21"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. d4 {0} cxd4 {0} 3. c3 {0} Nf6 {0} 4. e5 {0} Nd5 {0} 5. Nf3
{0} Nc6 {0} 6. Bc4 {0} Nb6 {0} 7. Bb3 {0} d5 {0} 8. exd6 {0} Qxd6 {0} 9. O-O {0
} Be6 {0} 10. Bxe6 {0} Qxe6 {0} 11. Nxd4 {0} Nxd4 {0} 12. Qxd4 {0} Rd8 {0} 13.
Qh4 {0} h5 {0} 14. Qf4 {69} Rh6 {0} 15. Nd2 {216} Rf6 {0.06/14 149} 16. Qc7 {12
} Qc6 {0.00/14 136} 17. Qxc6+ {Solist,Shredder 7.04 bietet Remis 52} Rxc6 {
-0.29/16 145} 18. Re1 {0} e6 {Solist,Shredder 7.04 bietet Remis -0.35/15 81}
19. Nf3 {36} Nc4 {-0.28/15 69} 20. h3 {90} Be7 {-0.39/15 106} 21. Rb1 {105} Ra6
{-0.46/15 41} 22. b3 {65} Na3 {-0.49/17 141} 23. Bxa3 {0} Rxa3 {-0.49/17 70}
24. Rb2 {43} Bf6 {-0.53/17 69} 25. Rc2 {0} Ra6 {-0.53/15 66} 26. Kf1 {54} Rc6 {
-0.48/15 121} 27. c4 {12} Rcd6 {-0.41/15 88} 28. c5 {0} R6d7 {-0.44/15 83} 29.
c6 {20} bxc6 {-0.35/15 107} 30. Rxc6 {0} Kf8 {-0.34/15 135} 31. Rec1 {63} g5 {
-0.30/15 81} 32. g4 {0} Kg7 {-0.29/14 52} 33. gxh5 {0} Kh6 {-0.08/15 100} 34.
R1c5 {0} Kxh5 {-0.29/15 50} 35. Ra6 {19} Kh6 {-0.27/14 68} 36. Rca5 {13} Ra8 {
-0.35/15 93} 37. Kg2 {112} Re7 {-0.31/14 76} 38. b4 {44} Kg6 {-0.21/15 76} 39.
a3 {44} Rb7 {-0.20/15 61} 40. Ne5+ {10} Bxe5 {-0.19/14 46} 41. Rxe5 {0} Re7 {
-0.17/16 58} 42. Kf3 {71} Rc8 {-0.28/15 91} 43. Rc5 {3} Rd8 {-0.22/16 36} 44.
b5 {96} Rd3+ {-0.55/14 43} 45. Kg2 {16} Rb7 {-0.52/14 19} 46. a4 {19} Rd4 {
-0.43/15 59} 47. Ra5 {81} Kf6 {-0.52/15 27} 48. Rc8 {60} Rd5 {-0.46/13 26} 49.
Kg3 {59} Rd3+ {-0.44/14 44} 50. f3 {6} Rd4 {-0.42/14 51} 51. Ra8 {76} Rdd7 {
-0.37/15 47} 52. Rc8 {1} Kg6 {-0.36/14 36} 53. h4 {40} gxh4+ {-0.28/16 16} 54.
Kxh4 {17} Kf5 {-0.20/16 38} 55. Kg3 {2} f6 {-0.23/16 51} 56. Ra8 {0} e5 {
-0.31/14 18} 57. Ra6 {27} Rf7 {-0.22/15 2} 58. Rh8 {38} Rbe7 {-0.02/14 47} 59.
a5 {55} e4 {0.00/13 16} 60. Kf2 {33} e3+ {-0.13/8 45} 61. Ke2 {62} Rg7 {
0.42/14 33} 62. Rh5+ {55} Kg6 {0.40/16 13} 63. Rh2 {48} Rgf7 {0.54/15 0} 64. b6
{50} axb6 {0.59/15 6} 65. axb6 {39} Rf8 {0.56/9 2} 66. Rh4 {55} Rb8 {0.60/13 30
} 67. Re4 {38} Reb7 {0.70/14 13} 68. Re6 {31} Kf5 {0.86/14 15} 69. Rc6 {10} Re7
{1.67/13 19} 70. Ra3 {18} Rbe8 {2.01/13 25} 71. Rc5+ {48} Ke6 {2.05/15 0} 72.
Rac3 {31} Rb7 {2.10/13 19} 73. Rc6+ {12} Kf5 {2.17/14 14} 74. Rxe3 {26} Re5 {
2.21/16 0} 75. Kd2 {35} Rb5 {2.07/13 9} 76. Ree6 {24} Rf7 {2.05/15 0} 77. Kd3 {
6} Rb3+ {2.05/14 10} 78. Kc2 {46} Rb4 {2.05/16 0} 79. Kd3 {38} Rb3+ {0.00/17 9}
80. Kc4 {54} Rb1 {2.04/13 8} 81. Red6 {19} Ke5 {2.08/13 3} 82. Re6+ {34} Kf5 {
0.00/21 10} 83. Re4 {16} Rb7 {1.48/14 10} 84. Kc5 {8} Rb3 {1.68/14 5} 85. Ree6
{16} Rf7 {1.80/14 3} 86. f4 {20} Rc3+ {1.19/12 9} 87. Kb5 {9} Rb3+ {1.10/13 10}
88. Ka5 {30} Ra3+ {1.22/12 13} 89. Kb4 {19} Rf3 {1.29/13 0} 90. Re8 {24} Rd7 {
1.54/12 17} 91. Rf8 {38} Rxf4+ {1.66/14 0} 92. Kb5 {25} Kg6 {1.65/13 10} 93.
Rc2 {5} Re7 {1.81/11 7} 94. Rg8+ {7} Kf7 {2.62/12 4} 95. Rc7 {18} Rfe4 {
3.43/14 0} 96. Rh8 {14} Kg6 {4.19/12 5} 97. b7 {9} R4e5+ {4.63/13 2} 98. Kb6 {4
} R5e6+ {4.63/13 4} 99. Rc6 {6} Re1 {4.55/11 1} 100. b8=Q {18} Rb1+ {5.11/13 6}
101. Kc5 {0} Rxb8 {5.14/14 6} 102. Rxb8 {0} Kg7 {5.28/13 7} 103. Rb3 {45} Re5+
{6.15/14 6} 104. Kd6 {36} Rg5 {#19/12 5} 105. Rc7+ {33} Kg6 {#22/14 5} 106. Rb8
{10} Ra5 {#18/15 4} 107. Rg8+ {4} Kf5 {#17/17 0} 108. Rc5+ {15} Rxc5 {0} 109.
Kxc5 {#16/24 0} Ke4 {0} 110. Re8+ {#15/1 0} Kf4 {0} 111. Kd4 {#14/1 0} Kg4 {0}
112. Ke4 {#13/1 0} f5+ {0} 113. Ke5 {#13/1 0} f4 {0} 114. Ke4 {#12/1 0} Kg5 {0}
115. Rf8 {#11/1 0} f3 {0} 116. Kxf3 {#10/1 0} Kg6 {0} 117. Kf4 {#9/1 0} Kg7 {0}
118. Rf5 {#8/1 0} Kg6 {0} 119. Kg4 {#6/1 0} Kh7 {0} 120. Kg5 {#5/1 0} Kg7 {0}
121. Rf4 {#5/1 0} Kh7 {0} 122. Kf6 {#3/1 0} Kg8 {0} 123. Rh4 {#2/1 0} Kf8 {0}
124. Rh8# {(Lag: Av=0.28s, max=1.5s) #2/1 0} 1-0
Schönen Tag noch.
Euer Solist.
>
>
>>Junior 8 on only 600 MHZ
>>Junior 9 on 2 GHz
>>
>>
>>[Event "Wertungspartie,"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2005.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Solist, Junior 8"]
>>[Black "Shupa, Junior 9"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "B21"]
>>[WhiteElo "2335"]
>>[BlackElo "2545"]
>>[PlyCount "44"]
>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>
>>1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. d4 {0} cxd4 {0} 3. c3 {0} dxc3 {0} 4. Nxc3 {0} Nc6 {0} 5.
>>Nf3 {0} e6 {0} 6. Bc4 {0} Qc7 {0} 7. Qe2 {0} Nf6 {0} 8. e5 {0} Ng4 {0} 9. Bf4 {
>>0} f6 {0} 10. Nb5 {0} Qa5+ {27} 11. Bd2 {0.29/13 0} Qb6 {0.48/13 17} 12. exf6 {
>>21} gxf6 {0.54/12 11} 13. O-O {
>>Solist reklamiert Gewinn wegen Verbindungsabbruch 19} h5 {1.21/14 154} 14. Bf4
>>{38} e5 {2.08/14 43} 15. h3 {1} Kd8 {2.21/12 24} 16. hxg4 {19} exf4 {2.60/14 18
>>} 17. Bf7 {1} Bc5 {2.72/14 81} 18. gxh5 {25} Rf8 {2.73/14 43} 19. Bg6 {13} Ne5
>>{3.03/14 33} 20. Rad1 {50} Nxf3+ {3.37/15 10} 21. gxf3 {20} Rh8 {3.43/14 0} 22.
>>a4 {17} Bb4 {Shupa,Junior 9 rinde (Lag: Av=0.27s, max=0.6s) 3.53/13 10} 1-0
>
>1. 6...Qc7 in te Junior 9 book has 0%, 6...a6 has 100% (when set book options to
>"optimal")
>2. The Junior 9 book ends after 7.Qe2
>3. 11...Qb6 is never considered here on my machine:
>
>r1b1kb1r/pp1p2pp/2n1pp2/qN2P3/2B3n1/5N2/PP1BQPPP/R3K2R b KQkq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 9:
>
>11...Dxd2+ 12.Sxd2 Sxf2 13.Dxf2 fxe5
> +- (7.13) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>11...Db4 12.Sc7+ Kd8 13.Lxb4 Lxb4+
> +- (5.82) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>11...Dd8 12.exf6
> ² (0.52) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
> ² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
>11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
> ² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
>11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2
> ² (0.52) Tiefe: 9 00:00:00 56kN
>11...Lb4 12.0-0 0-0
> ² (0.52) Tiefe: 12 00:00:07 11317kN
>11...Lb4 12.0-0 Lxd2 13.Sxd2 Scxe5 14.f4 d5 15.fxe5 Db6+ 16.Kh1 Sxe5 17.Lb3 Ld7
>18.Sc3 Tc8 19.Tae1
> ² (0.63) Tiefe: 14 00:00:59 88724kN
>
>4. 13...h5 is never seriously considered on my machine:
>
>r1b1kb1r/pp1p3p/1qn1pp2/1N6/2B3n1/5N2/PP1BQPPP/R4RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 9:
>
>13...h5 14.Dd3
> ± (0.89) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...h6 14.Dd3
> ± (0.84) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...f5 14.Dd3
> ± (0.80) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...e5 14.Dd3
> ± (0.73) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...d5 14.Lxd5 Sxh2 15.Lxe6
> ² (0.49) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2
> ³ (-0.67) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
>13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2 15.Dd3
> = (-0.22) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00 5kN
>13...a6 14.Sc3 Dxb2 15.Tab1 Da3 16.De4 f5 17.Dd3
> ² (0.28) Tiefe: 8 00:00:00 131kN
>13...a6 14.Sc3 Le7 15.Ld3 d5 16.Sa4 Dc7 17.Le3
> ² (0.47) Tiefe: 11 00:00:02 2851kN
>13...a6 14.Sc3 Dc5 15.h3 Sge5 16.Sxe5 Dxe5 17.Ld3 Lc5 18.Dxe5 Sxe5 19.Le4
> ± (1.21) Tiefe: 14 00:02:30 225180kN
>
>
>So finally this was something like a book win for white. In an early stage of
>the game - around move 10 I'd say - the position looks very dubious for black,
>considering completed piece development for white while black did not castle nor
>push the bishops.
>
>I do not feel to take this game to say that Junior 9 is not stronger than Junior
>8 just because one operator on the CB server chose the wrong options (my
>assumption is that the CB GUI causes this dubious behaviour) or used another
>book (or an "optimized" one).
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