Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 00:25:22 01/21/05
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On January 21, 2005 at 02:38:10, Harald Faber wrote:
>What is BLIND? TO not show 0.00 as eval?
NO! The game is **WON** for BLACK !!
Die Stellung ist gewonnen für Schwarz. Analysiert mal genauer. ;)
Eduard.
>
>
>On January 20, 2005 at 16:00:02, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2005 at 15:12:16, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>I belive not that J9 is stronger than Junior 8 (see SSDF against S8).
>>>
>>>Here my 2 games on my poor 600 MHZ only (My Nick is Solist on Playchess.com)!
>>>
>>>
>>>Junior 8 on only 600 MHZ
>>>Junior 9 on 2 GHz
>>>
>>>
>>>[Event "Wertungspartie, 10m + 2s"]
>>>[Site "Maschinenraum"]
>>>[Date "2005.01.20"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Shupa, Junior 9"]
>>>[Black "Solist, Junior 8"]
>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>[ECO "C43"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2526"]
>>>[BlackElo "2295"]
>>>[PlyCount "277"]
>>>[EventDate "2005.01.20"]
>>>[TimeControl "600+2"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 {0} e5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {0} 3. d4 {0} Nxe4 {0} 4. Bd3 {0} d5 {0} 5.
>>>Nxe5 {0} Bd6 {0} 6. O-O {0} O-O {0} 7. c4 {0} Bxe5 {0} 8. dxe5 {0} Nc6 {0} 9.
>>>cxd5 {0} Qxd5 {0} 10. Qc2 {0} Nb4 {0} 11. Bxe4 {0} Nxc2 {0} 12. Bxd5 {0} Bf5 {0
>>>} 13. g4 {0} Bxg4 {0} 14. Be4 {0} Nxa1 {0} 15. Nc3 {0} Bh3 {0} 16. Re1 {10} f5
>>>{0.17/13 0} 17. Bxb7 {-0.07/14 22} Rae8 {18} 18. Bd5+ {-0.17/15 0} Kh8 {5} 19.
>>>Re2 {-0.40/16 26} f4 {1} 20. f3 {-0.23/14 18} Bf5 {17} 21. Be4 {-0.89/14 33}
>>>Bxe4 {9} 22. Rxe4 {-0.90/15 0} Nc2 {18} 23. Bxf4 {-1.03/16 18} Ne1 {2} 24. Nb5
>>>{-1.02/15 22} Nxf3+ {18} 25. Kg2 {Solist,Junior 8 bietet Remis -0.98/16 0} Nh4+
>>>{30} 26. Kh3 {-1.16/17 26} Ng6 {1} 27. Bg3 {-0.86/16 16} Rf7 {12} 28. Nxa7 {
>>>-0.93/15 22} h5 {1} 29. Nb5 {-0.77/16 19} Re6 {15} 30. b4 {-0.75/15 2} h4 {20}
>>>31. Bxh4 {-0.51/16 0} Rxe5 {10} 32. Rxe5 {-0.65/17 3} Nxe5 {13} 33. Bg3 {
>>>-0.70/18 3} Nd3 {14} 34. Bxc7 {-0.79/19 24} Nxb4 {6} 35. a4 {-0.86/18 13} Nc6 {
>>>4} 36. Bg3 {-0.89/18 10} Rf1 {7} 37. Nc3 {-0.92/18 11} Kg8 {10} 38. Ne4 {
>>>-0.92/18 22} Kf7 {1} 39. Kg2 {-1.02/16 15} Rc1 {14} 40. Kf2 {-1.03/15 11} Ke6 {
>>>15} 41. Ke3 {-1.08/16 13} Kd5 {1} 42. Kd3 {-1.30/15 14} Rd1+ {9} 43. Nd2 {
>>>-1.12/17 31} Ra1 {1} 44. Nc4 {-1.16/16 10} Rc1 {1} 45. Nb6+ {-1.11/15 13} Ke6 {
>>>1} 46. Nc4 {-1.01/16 23} Rb1 {34} 47. Kc3 {-0.98/15 10} g5 {13} 48. Nd2 {
>>>-1.03/15 12} Rc1+ {1} 49. Kd3 {-0.87/15 8} Na5 {1} 50. Nf3 {-0.78/16 8} g4 {11}
>>>51. Nd4+ {-0.74/15 4} Kd7 {14} 52. Nc2 {-0.71/15 6} Nc4 {16} 53. Kxc4 {
>>>-0.35/15 7} Rxc2+ {13} 54. Kb5 {-0.59/19 0} Rb2+ {10} 55. Kc5 {-0.63/20 0} Ra2
>>>{6} 56. Kb5 {-0.63/18 6} Kc8 {2} 57. Be5 {-0.63/18 3} Re2 {8} 58. Bg3 {
>>>-0.63/19 6} Kb7 {3} 59. Ka5 {-0.63/19 5} Kc6 {1} 60. Kb4 {-0.63/19 19} Kb6 {9}
>>>61. Bb8 {-0.64/17 6} Re4+ {7} 62. Kb3 {-0.75/19 6} Re3+ {6} 63. Kb4 {-0.75/20 8
>>>} Re8 {8} 64. Bg3 {-0.64/18 3} Re4+ {2} 65. Kb3 {-0.64/20 1} Kc5 {6} 66. Bf2+ {
>>>-0.64/17 4} Kc6 {3} 67. Bg3 {-0.64/20 5} Kd5 {3} 68. Bf2 {-0.64/19 4} Re2 {9}
>>>69. Bg3 {-0.64/21 9} Kc5 {1} 70. Bf4 {-0.65/19 4} Re7 {14} 71. Bh6 {-0.74/17 4}
>>>Re6 {6} 72. Bc1 {-0.89/18 5} Rb6+ {8} 73. Kc3 {-0.63/18 4} Rf6 {3} 74. Be3+ {
>>>-0.64/16 5} Kd5 {2} 75. Kb4 {-0.64/16 1} Ke4 {6} 76. Bg1 {-0.60/16 4} Kf3 {1}
>>>77. Bd4 {-0.67/14 4} Rf4 {1} 78. Kc5 {-0.87/16 4} Kg2 {3} 79. a5 {-0.52/14 3}
>>>Rf5+ {7} 80. Kb6 {0.00/16 4} Rf4 {4} 81. Be5 {0.04/14 3} Rb4+ {7} 82. Kc6 {
>>>0.08/16 1} Re4 {8} 83. Bg3 {0.16/15 3} Re6+ {7} 84. Kb5 {
>>>Solist,Junior 8 bietet Remis 0.27/17 3} Re2 {3} 85. a6 {0.44/18 0} Rb2+ {5} 86.
>>>Kc6 {0.44/18 4} Ra2 {0} 87. Kb7 {0.43/19 4} Rb2+ {1} 88. Ka8 {0.43/19 4} Kf3 {6
>>>} 89. a7 {0.14/19 0} Rb1 {3} 90. Be5 {-0.02/18 3} Rb5 {1} 91. Bb8 {0.00/19 2}
>>>Kg2 {5} 92. Bg3 {0.00/20 5} Rb2 {5} 93. Bc7 {0.00/19 3} Rb1 {6} 94. Bg3 {
>>>0.00/22 5} Rb5 {1} 95. Bc7 {0.00/22 5} Rb2 {5} 96. Bd6 {0.00/21 4} Rb6 {11} 97.
>>>Bg3 {0.00/20 3} Rb4 {5} 98. Be5 {0.00/22 4} Rb3 {0} 99. Bg3 {0.00/21 3} Kh3 {1}
>>>100. Bd6 {0.00/20 3} Rb6 {1} 101. Bc7 {0.00/20 2} Rb5 {1} 102. Bg3 {0.00/23 5}
>>>Rb2 {5} 103. Bb8 {0.00/23 2} Kg2 {5} 104. Bg3 {0.00/25 0} Kf3 {5} 105. Bb8 {
>>>0.00/20 4} Kg2 {5} 106. Bg3 {0.00/27 17} Rb1 {5} 107. Be5 {0.00/23 0} Kf3 {5}
>>>108. Bg3 {0.00/23 0} Ke4 {4} 109. Bd6 {-1.16/19 5} Kf5 {1} 110. Bf8 {-0.45/17 3
>>>} Rb2 {0} 111. Bd6 {0.00/16 2} Rb5 {2} 112. Bg3 {-0.45/18 3} Rb4 {5} 113. Bd6 {
>>>0.00/17 2} Rb3 {5} 114. Bf8 {0.00/19 4} Rb2 {5} 115. Bd6 {0.00/20 0} Ke4 {5}
>>>116. Bc7 {-1.16/20 0} Rb5 {5} 117. Bg3 {-1.16/21 3} Rb4 {1} 118. Be1 {
>>>-1.16/20 4} Rb1 {5} 119. Bc3 {-1.46/21 3} Rb5 {5} 120. Bf6 {-1.46/21 3} Kf3 {4}
>>>121. Bd4 {0.00/18 2} Kg2 {5} 122. Be3 {0.00/22 0} Rb1 {3} 123. Bf4 {0.00/20 2}
>>>Kf2 {1} 124. Bc7 {0.00/21 2} Rb5 {4} 125. Bf4 {0.00/21 4} Ke2 {4} 126. Bh6 {
>>>-0.20/19 4} Kf3 {4} 127. Bg7 {0.00/20 0} Kg2 {3} 128. Bd4 {0.00/21 0} Kh1 {5}
>>>129. Be3 {0.00/20 3} Rb4 {4} 130. Bc5 {0.00/19 3} Rb2 {0} 131. Bd6 {0.00/18 1}
>>>Rb5 {4} 132. Bg3 {0.00/23 2} Kg1 {1} 133. Bb8 {0.00/23 2} Kf1 {1} 134. Bf4 {
>>>0.00/21 2} Kf2 {4} 135. Bd2 {0.00/21 3} Kf3 {4} 136. Bc3 {0.00/21 3} Rb3 {4}
>>>137. Be5 {0.00/20 2} Ke2 {0} 138. Bf4 {0.00/19 2} Kf2 {4} 139. Bb8 {0.00/22 2}
>>>1/2-1/2
>>>
>>
>>Computers are BLIND - not only Junior 8!
>>
>>Position of game 1
>>
>>
>>[D]KB6/P7/8/8/6p1/7k/1r5P/8 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb6 3.Lc7 Tb2 4.Lg3 Ta2
>> ± (0.75) Tiefe: 7/11 00:00:00 17kN
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lb8
>> ² (0.50) Tiefe: 8/19 00:00:00 42kN, tb=2
>>1...Kg2!
>> = (0.22) Tiefe: 9/17 00:00:00 55kN, tb=6
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6
>> = (0.22) Tiefe: 10/21 00:00:00 79kN, tb=14
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lb8 Kf3 6.Lg3 Ke4
>> = (0.22) Tiefe: 11/20 00:00:02 135kN, tb=30
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lg3 Kd5 6.Lf2 Ke5 7.Lg3+ Ke4
>> = (0.22) Tiefe: 12/23 00:00:03 259kN, tb=87
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.La3 Ta1 6.Lf8 Kd5 7.Kb7 Tb1+ 8.Kc7
>> = (0.07) Tiefe: 13/22 00:00:04 547kN, tb=205
>>
>>Blitztime on my slow Computer:
>>
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lg3 Kd5 6.Lc7 Tb2 7.Lb8 Tb1
>> = (0.00) Tiefe: 14/27 00:00:06 930kN, tb=474
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lf8 Tb2 6.Lg7 Txh2 7.Kb7 Ta2 8.a8D
>> = (0.00) Tiefe: 15/25 00:00:08 1450kN, tb=920
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lf8 Tb2 6.Lg7 Txh2 7.Kb7 Ta2 8.a8D Txa8
>>9.Kxa8 Kd5
>> = (0.00) Tiefe: 16/31 00:00:11 2534kN, tb=2145
>>
>>
>>
>>1...Kg2 2.Le5 Tb1 3.Lc7 Kf3 4.Ld6 Ke4 5.Lf8 Kd5 6.Lg7 Kc6 7.Le5 Tb3 8.Lg3 Kd5
>>9.Lf4 Tb2
>> = (-0.12) Tiefe: 17/32 00:00:23 6203kN, tb=4943
>>1...Kg2!
>> ³ (-0.40) Tiefe: 18/38 00:00:35 10170kN, tb=8445
>>1...Kg2!
>> ³ (-0.68) Tiefe: 19/46 00:00:55 15759kN, tb=14054
>>1...Kg2!
>> µ (-0.97) Tiefe: 20/46 00:01:41 28294kN, tb=26757
>>1...Kg2!
>> µ (-1.25) Tiefe: 21/46 00:02:52 50690kN, tb=50434
>>
>>(Nemeth, Privat 20.01.2005)
>>
>>Fritz 8.0026 is blind!
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