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Subject: Re: Nice positional pearl! - List 512

Author: m.d.hurd

Date: 08:00:19 01/22/05

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On January 22, 2005 at 10:21:32, Ingo Bauer wrote:

>On January 22, 2005 at 10:07:51, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>I want to share this nice position. Most engines have a hard time to avoid Qxc5
>>but if you make the move (QxQ KxQ) manualy it is easy for the most.
>>
>>(Progs have a hard time going to a certain depth with the queens on baord, even
>>if it is just a capture and recapture, but if the Queens are off they go to a
>>great depth quite fast)
>>
>>[D]2q1k3/1p3p2/4P1pp/P1Qp3P/3K1P2/1P6/8/8 b - -
>
>I forgot to mention that the only engine I checked that consequently avoided
>Qxc5 was Hiarcs 9, but I beleive it does it for the wrong reason. If I made the
>move QxQ manualy it needed quite long to see the disaster!
>
>Bye
>Ingo

Hello Ingo

List 512 manages to avoid QxQ, What does Shredder 9 RC do ?

New game, 120'/40+60'/20+30'
2q1k3/1p3p2/4P1pp/P1Qp3P/3K1P2/1P6/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by List 512:

1...Qxe6 2.Qb5+ Qd7 3.Qxd7+ Kxd7 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Kxd5 h5
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Qxe6 2.Qb5+ Qd7 3.Qxd7+ Kxd7 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Kxd5 h5 6.b4
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  15kN
1...Qxe6 2.Qb5+ Qd7 3.Qe2+ Kf8 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Qe5 Qf7 6.Qh8+ Ke7
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 7   00:00:01  84kN
1...Qxe6 2.Qb5+ Qd7 3.Qxd7+ Kxd7 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Kxd5 h5 6.b4 h4 7.b5
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  251kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.b4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  285kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.Kb6 h4 4.Kxb7 h3 5.a6 h2 6.a7 h1Q 7.exf7+ Kxf7 8.a8Q
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  357kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.Kg3 Kf5 8.b4
  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 10   00:00:03  734kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.Kg3 Kf5 8.b4
h5
  ³  (-0.45)   Depth: 11   00:00:09  1611kN
1...Qxe6 2.Qb5+ Qd7 3.Qe2+ Kf8 4.Qe5 gxh5 5.Qf6 Qg4 6.Qd6+ Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kg6 8.Kxd5
Qd1+
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 11   00:00:10  6757kN
1...Qxe6 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxd5 Qxd5+ 4.Kxd5 h5 5.b4 h4 6.Ke4 h3 7.Kf3 Ke7 8.Kg3 h2
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 12   00:00:16  14235kN
1...Qxe6 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxd5 Qxd5+ 4.Kxd5 h5 5.b4 h4 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kf3 Kc6 8.Kg4
Kb5
  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 12   00:00:21  22480kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.Kg3 Kf5 8.b4
h5
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 12   00:00:22  23013kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.Kg3 Kf5 8.b4
h5
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 13   00:00:28  24206kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 Kf6 6.Kf3 Kf5 7.b4 h3 8.Kg3
h2
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 14   00:00:35  29796kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 Kf6 6.Kf3 Kf5 7.b4 h3 8.Kg3
h2
  ³  (-0.32)   Depth: 15   00:00:41  41169kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 Kf6 6.Kf3 Kf5 7.b4 h3 8.Kg3
h2
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 16   00:01:13  79489kN
1...Qxc5+ 2.Kxc5 gxh5 3.exf7+ Kxf7 4.Kxd5 h4 5.Ke4 h3 6.Kf3 Ke6 7.b4 Kd5 8.Kg3
Kc4
  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 16   00:01:20  87254kN
1...Qxe6 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxd5 Qxd5+ 4.Kxd5 h5 5.b4 h4 6.Ke4 Kd7 7.Kf3 Kc6 8.Kg4
Kb5
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 16   00:01:53  120262kN
1...Qxe6 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxd5 Qe7 4.Qg8+ Kd7 5.Qxg6 Qb4+ 6.Ke5 Qxa5+ 7.Ke4 Qb4+
8.Ke5 Qc5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 16   00:04:58  314432kN
1...Qxe6 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qxd5 Qe7 4.Qg8+ Kd7 5.Qxg6 Qb4+ 6.Ke5 Qxa5+ 7.Ke4 Qb4+
8.Ke5 Qc5+
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 17   00:10:58  685908kN

(Mike, n/a 22.01.2005)


Regards

Mike



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