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Subject: Re: Hyatt vs corbit solving chess

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 09:41:43 01/24/05

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On January 24, 2005 at 12:35:56, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 24, 2005 at 12:33:49, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 24, 2005 at 12:04:56, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>On January 24, 2005 at 11:53:38, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> It might require the square of that (so 50,000*50,000 acres).
>>>
>>>Dann, think again about this :-) Also, assume for a moment, you had given the
>>>area in square miles instead of acres. Now square that area, or in square light
>>>years - you will come to the conclusion, that almost no space at all will be
>>>needed ... . And of course, if you square an area, you don't have an area
>>>anymore, but rather something with dimentsion length^^4.
>>
>>Actually, a cube is a very good idea.  The particular substance I described for
>>storing data is a doped crystal (rather inexpensive too).  It is the same thing
>>that is used for dosimeters for people who walk around in nuclear reactors.
>>When ionizing radiation strikes the crystal, it leaves tracks that can be
>>measured.  Using this principle, they are able to record a terrabyte in one
>>square centimeter.  Interesingly, you can read the whole crystal at once with
>>CCDs.
>>
>>Now, suppose that we record in layers so that really we record data in 3
>>dimentions.  Instead of a terrabyte per square centimeter, we may get 1e36 bytes
>>per cubic centimeter.  Now, suppose that we have some kind of loss with a factor
>>of one million.  That would mean 1e30 bytes per cubic centimeter.
>>
>>A cubic meter of this crystal could store an awful lot of information.
>>Specifically, 1e90 bytes.
>
>Math spasm.  Only 1e45 bytes, since we already had the square.
>But that looks like a pretty nice number for chess.  And a cubic meter of
>crystal is certainly doable.  Even if we need two or three of them.
>
>>So anything is possible, if we put our minds to it.

Time for yet another retraction.  Since a square centimeter gives 1e12 bytes, a
cubic centimeter is only 1e18 bytes.  So a cubic meter is 1e18*100*100*100 =
1e24 bytes.  Not bad, but a long way to go to store a chess tree.



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