Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:31:30 01/25/05
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On January 25, 2005 at 06:08:05, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On January 25, 2005 at 01:57:43, Uri Blass wrote: > >>>> >>>>56...Nh5+. I suspect that most strong engines will easily be able to see the >>>>forced mate in this position. The King sees Mate in 10 in less than one second. >>>> >>>>But it certainly wouldn't take an "exceptional human" to beat DF8 in a 5-minute >>>>game when it was only playing on a Celeron 500. Any IM would have a reasonable >>>>chance at it, and perhaps even a Master could get lucky. >>>> >>>>jm >>> >>> >>>Not so sure about this, remember genius 3 on pentium 90 won a game/25 tourney >>>over strong grandmasters, computers are known to be even stronger at faster time >>>controls, another factor is that genius was 200 points below top programs. >> >> >>I doubt if it is correct at fast blitz. >>Fritz was never tested seriously at 1 minute/game on slow hardware. >> >> Anand >>>Lost a blitz match to rebel 10 running on Amd 450. I doubt a 1900 can suceceed >>>were Super Grandmastes have failed. >> >>I am sure 1900 player have chances to win a blitz game against stupid program >>like Fritz8. > > Why do you say Fritz 8 a stupid program? I don't say it's more intelligent than >humans in many areas of the Chess game, but it can beat 0.9999% of them(us) for >sure and with the other 0.0001% of humans that remains, the game is equal. So >judging from the result and only we can't say Fritz 8 is stupid........ You do not need intelligence to beat 0.9999% of the humans. > > It does not understand a positional move that requires a deep plan and this >makes it stupid there. It is not a deep plan(the knight has no squares to go and fritz does not understand it in it's evaluation) Note that I do not say that movei is smarter and movei has no knowledge about trapped knight but movei is not commercial and I expect commercial program to know better. Fritz is clearly stupid relative to what we can expect from a top commercial program. Uri
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