Author: George Tsavdaris
Date: 04:31:16 01/25/05
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On January 25, 2005 at 06:31:30, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 25, 2005 at 06:08:05, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On January 25, 2005 at 01:57:43, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>>56...Nh5+. I suspect that most strong engines will easily be able to see the >>>>>forced mate in this position. The King sees Mate in 10 in less than one second. >>>>> >>>>>But it certainly wouldn't take an "exceptional human" to beat DF8 in a 5-minute >>>>>game when it was only playing on a Celeron 500. Any IM would have a reasonable >>>>>chance at it, and perhaps even a Master could get lucky. >>>>> >>>>>jm >>>> >>>> >>>>Not so sure about this, remember genius 3 on pentium 90 won a game/25 tourney >>>>over strong grandmasters, computers are known to be even stronger at faster time >>>>controls, another factor is that genius was 200 points below top programs. >>> >>> >>>I doubt if it is correct at fast blitz. >>>Fritz was never tested seriously at 1 minute/game on slow hardware. >>> >>> Anand >>>>Lost a blitz match to rebel 10 running on Amd 450. I doubt a 1900 can suceceed >>>>were Super Grandmastes have failed. >>> >>>I am sure 1900 player have chances to win a blitz game against stupid program >>>like Fritz8. >> >> Why do you say Fritz 8 a stupid program? I don't say it's more intelligent than >>humans in many areas of the Chess game, but it can beat 0.9999% of them(us) for >>sure and with the other 0.0001% of humans that remains, the game is equal. So >>judging from the result and only we can't say Fritz 8 is stupid........ > >You do not need intelligence to beat 0.9999% of the humans. Hmmm, i can't understand you here. What do you need? Luck? If you can win the 0.9999% of the Chess-playing humans then i think it is true that you have a type of high intelligence, although a different one from that humans have........... > >> >> It does not understand a positional move that requires a deep plan and this >>makes it stupid there. > >It is not a deep plan(the knight has no squares to go and fritz does not >understand it in it's evaluation) > >Note that I do not say that movei is smarter and movei has no knowledge about >trapped knight but movei is not commercial and I expect commercial program to >know better. > >Fritz is clearly stupid relative to what we can expect from a top commercial >program. > >Uri
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