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Subject: Re: A 1932 rated Super Grandmaster or Computer Program? Your pick

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:39:14 01/25/05

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On January 25, 2005 at 07:31:16, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On January 25, 2005 at 06:31:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2005 at 06:08:05, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>On January 25, 2005 at 01:57:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>56...Nh5+. I suspect that most strong engines will easily be able to see the
>>>>>>forced mate in this position. The King sees Mate in 10 in less than one second.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But it certainly wouldn't take an "exceptional human" to beat DF8 in a 5-minute
>>>>>>game when it was only playing on a Celeron 500. Any IM would have a reasonable
>>>>>>chance at it, and perhaps even a Master could get lucky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not so sure about this, remember genius 3 on pentium 90 won a game/25 tourney
>>>>>over strong grandmasters, computers are known to be even stronger at faster time
>>>>>controls, another factor is that genius was 200 points below top programs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I doubt if it is correct at fast blitz.
>>>>Fritz was never tested seriously at 1 minute/game on slow hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Anand
>>>>>Lost a blitz match to rebel 10 running on Amd 450.  I doubt a 1900 can suceceed
>>>>>were Super Grandmastes have failed.
>>>>
>>>>I am sure 1900 player have chances to win a blitz game against stupid program
>>>>like Fritz8.
>>>
>>> Why do you say Fritz 8 a stupid program? I don't say it's more intelligent than
>>>humans in many areas of the Chess game, but it can beat 0.9999% of them(us) for
>>>sure and with the other 0.0001% of humans that remains, the game is equal. So
>>>judging from the result and only we can't say Fritz 8 is stupid........
>>
>>You do not need intelligence to beat 0.9999% of the humans.
>
>Hmmm, i can't understand you here. What do you need? Luck?
>If you can win the 0.9999% of the Chess-playing humans then i think it is true
>that you have a type of high intelligence, although a different one from that
>humans have...........

The question is how do you define intelligence.

The ability to calculate a lot of calculation in a short time is not what I call
intelligence but this together with some simple algorithm is enough to beat most
humans.

Uri



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