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Subject: Re: question to Prof Hyatt on environmental care.

Author: Duncan Roberts

Date: 13:32:58 01/25/05

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On January 25, 2005 at 16:25:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 25, 2005 at 16:13:01, Duncan Roberts wrote:
>
>>My understanding of dann corbit is that a 32 piece tablebase needs a 2.5 * 2.5
>>cube of crystal.
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?407489
>>
>>
>>This is considerably less than a galaxy and perhaps could be slipped pass
>>greenpeace, although I think you were referring to all games.
>>
>>anyway is this calculation anywhere near right ?
>>
>>
>>duncan
>
>
>I honestly have no idea.  First, I really don't know how big the actual game
>tree for chess will be.  It could be _very_ big if the game goes on and on with
>every 50th move being a pawn push or capture to restart the 50 move rule.  Or it
>might be that it is a forced win or draw or loss inside 50 move, with best play.
> Until we know how big the tree really is, it is hard to predict how much
>storage will be required to hold it.  For the worst case, where some 5500 moves
>are possible before it becomes a forced draw (forced in that I assume one side
>will claim the draw if the other side will not, otherwise the game becomes
>infinite and all bets are off) that is so big that it is impossible to estimate
>anything about it.  There are positions with a branching factor of one (one
>legal move) as well as positions with a branching factor of over 200.  When
>talking about W^D where D is big and W can get big, I personally lose focus. :)


but to store a 32 piece tablebase would be a lot 'smaller'.

might  a 2.5 by 2.5 kilometre crystal  do the trick ?


duncan



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