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Subject: Re: shredder 9

Author: Ingo Bauer

Date: 05:42:26 01/27/05

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On January 27, 2005 at 08:28:59, adam wilks wrote:

>if shredder 8 beats king 3.33 schumacher then id hate to think what shredder 9
>can do. how comes shredder 8 only searches like 100-200 kn/s in fritz gui and
>fritz searches like up to 1 million kn/s but shredder still beats it?is it
>beacuse fritz is just a tactical engine and positionally weak and shredder is a
>positional better engine yet tactically weak?

No!

1. kN/s: No one knows what Shredder or Fritz or any other engine is showing as
kN/s. For sure they are counting different things. Therefore the values are not
comperable.

2. Evaluation values: Do not compare a 1.0 of Fritz with a 1.0 of Shredder or
any other engine. All engines differ in their counting of a pawn, an advanced
pawn, an isolated pawn, a free pawn, bishops, bishop pairs ...

(Philisophical remark: Shredder is usually considered as optimistic in its
evals. On the other hand Shredder is wining more games than other engines,
therefore its eval is more often right then the eval from the others, wouldnt it
be right to consider other engines as pessimistic instead of Shredder as
optimistic?)

3. Depth. Sometimes Engines show depth values that are just crazy. Just ignore
them.

The only thing that is for sure is the result of a game/match.

Bye
Ingo



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