Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 02:53:17 01/29/05
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On January 28, 2005 at 20:05:52, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 28, 2005 at 11:52:25, Vasik Rajlich wrote: > >>On January 28, 2005 at 06:17:49, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On January 28, 2005 at 04:37:59, Vasik Rajlich wrote: >>> >>>>On January 27, 2005 at 16:37:11, Richard Harrison wrote: >>>> >>>>>In the following position, Shredder 8 plays the blunder move 66. Qxf4?? This >>>>>move loses quickly. [After 15 minutes of thinking, still likes Qxf4] >>>>> >>>>>S7.04 does not deviate from 66. Qb2 and recognizes the draw instantly. Ruffian >>>>>1.05 also plays Qb2 (0.00) >>>>> >>>>>What does your Shredder 8 play? >>>>> >>>>>[D]8/8/8/2K5/1Q3pP1/4nP2/3pk3/8 w - - 0 66 >>>> >>>>White is clearly better after Qxf4. >>>> >>>>In the endgame just counting the material isn't so reliable any more. >>>> >>>>Vas >>> >>>I disagree. >>>I think that black has better winning chances. >>> >>>winning a pawn and getting drawn KN vs KP is no problem for black after Qxf4 >>>and black can also try other ideas. >>> >>>in human game I will try to win with black. >>> >>>The white pawns are not advanced enough to make me afraid of promotion in the >>>near future and I feel sure that in the worst case I can draw by perpetual check >>>and maybe I can win the queen of the opponent after a mistake preventing the >>>opponent to force trading queens is easy. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Uri, >> >>let me tell you a little chess story. I play in the German league for >>Hungen-Lich, a very small city. We have quite a few teams actually - some a bit >>more discinplined than other - and one of them is called the "pub" team. Every >>year, from each league, a few teams get moved up, and a few teams get kicked >>down - and as you might guess in the last match last year our pub team was >>fighting for their life to stay in the league. To stay, they had to draw their >>last match. >> >>Now, you might think that anybody who calls themselves the pub team wouldn't >>give a rat's ass about getting kicked - but in this case you would think wrong. >>Let's face it - it might be fun to drink a little bit, but if you get kicked by >>some chumps it's just not so funny anymore. So, the big match is underway - and >>the pub team is behind, 4-3. It's down to the last game, they need a win to stay >>in the league, and their guy has bishop and wrong-colored rook pawn, nothing >>else. >> >>Can he pull it off? >> >>After a few swigs, the pub team guy moves up his pawn, and then brings the king >>in for the final assault. The defending king is in the corner, with fewer and >>fewer escape squares. The defender - sober, but under great pressure all game - >>the tension and the danger of great humiliation working on his mind - the empty >>bottles on the table clouding his vision - starts to panic - worries about >>getting mated, and flees into the open space. The pawn promotes, the new queen >>closes in, and the pub team keeps their spot. The guy who lost was ready to cry. >> >>SO what's the point here? >> >>If you join our pub team - and it's not clear that you have the credentials - >>and if you have the balls to get drunk for the match that might kick you from >>the league - then we can talk about how you'll win this with black. >> >>But wait - that's not the end. After the victorious match, the loser of this >>game was furious. After mulling over his humiliation, he gathered himself up and >>wrote a big letter to the German federation, and as it turns out it's illegal to >>have alcohol at the match - although it had been going on all year and nobody >>else was crying about it. So, the match was forfeited, and the pub team got >>kicked after all and even had to pay a fine. >> >>So let me know if you want to file a pub team application ... >> >>Vas > >I do not see the connection. > >KBP vs K is an easy draw when the bishop is blind and it is eady to prove it >mathematically. > >Here I am not sure that it is an easy draw and I suspect that there may happen a >position when the side with the knight may give some checks and force mate or >win the queen. > >Uri It was just a cool story :) totally true BTW. In this position here it's a question of what white can do. Maybe it's just drawn. For example 1. Qxf4 d1/Q 2. g5 already draws to 2. .. Qd5+ & Qxf3, and if 2. Qe4 then black plays 2. .. Qd8 and starts passing with his king. As for white blundering his queen - if he's worried about this, he can just keep it where the knight can't attack it with one move ;) This is a good idea if you're playing against the pub team ... Vas
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