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Subject: Re: pawn loss

Author: Duncan Roberts

Date: 04:21:15 01/30/05

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On January 30, 2005 at 06:06:06, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On January 28, 2005 at 08:36:45, Duncan Roberts wrote:
>
>>rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/2BPPB2/2NRRN2/PPP2PPP/3Q2K1 w kq - 0 1
>>
>>
>>yace (material only) values the above at about 1.5 and suggests that one can
>>grab a pawn by move 6 in the above position, although fritz suggest that there
>>are better moves to be made and values it at about 2.5.
>
>Yace shows 1.6, which means exactly 2 pawns (Uri gave the material values to
>you, where pawn is 80).
>
>>is it agreed that black cannot avoid losing a pawn by move 6, and is there
>>anyway white can get a pawn before move 6 ?
>
>Yace material only, does not claim in any way, that "only" at move 6 a pawn can
>be won. The time, when the 2 pawns are won, do not matter at all for it, as long
>as they are won inside the search horizont. Possibly one could save material for
>longer, but will lose more later (all inside the search horizont). To answer the
>question: "How long can black keep his material together", one would need
>different algorithms (and a good definition what is "losing a pawn").
>
>Regards,
>Dieter




thanks for the correction.


why in  a different position, does it say depth = 16 and then show 26 plies


depth=16 1/49(Bxf7+) +0.80 .  1.Bxf7+ Kxf7 2.Ne5+ Ke8 3.Qh5+ g6 4.Nxg6 Nf6 5.Qh4
hxg6 6.Qxh8 Kf7 7.Bg5 Ng8 8.Re3 Nc6 9.Qh7+ Bg7 10.Rf3+ Nf6 11.e5 Nxd4 12.Rxf6+
exf6 13.exf6 Nxc2 {-270}


duncan



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