Author: Joshua Haglund
Date: 02:53:15 01/31/05
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On January 31, 2005 at 00:41:28, Joshua Shriver wrote: >Interesting view, and to an extent I agree.... one of my problems with chess >comp's... is that they tend not to judge *just* by code as I would wish... but >by hardware. So like so many games.... he with the biggest pockets has the >advantage.. which in my view is unfair. > >Take a guy who is broke, but spends his life coding a perfect chess engine... he >might lose to an undergrad, who has MS on his side pumping a $1million worth of >hardware on his side... which is better? > >In terms of the WCCC it seems the undergrad wins... but I see (at least assume) >with your results... you're truly testing engines based on their strength and >not on hardware. > >(BTW the only flaw I see in this.... is cases where engines are tuned for 64 bit >hense Opteron,etc... and SMP engines)... so I must admit you're view isn't >perfect. Thought it seems a lot more fair that most competitions. These results include any engine, (example Hydra..., but Hydra hasn't played 5000 games with a single version, so it is not on the list.) that has played at playchess.com. The result is an average of everyone using that particular engine. > >I hope once my engine is done, you can add it to your list... I dont mind >getting creamed by such masters as Crafty, Diep, Sjeng, Fritz, or Junior... :) >but would like an honest view of how it all ends up. I'm sure it'll make it to the list after 5k games. If you particapate, good luck at the WCCC2005 :) Joshua Haglund toneewa@yahoo.com > >Sincerely, >Joshua Shriver > >P.S. I guess I shouldn't complain.... I was lucky enough to get into this game, >at the point where parallelization is the real key to winning. Since I have a >sponcer willing to donate me all the time I want on a 50 node (dual Opteron) >cluster... *hense I have 100 Opterons* at my disposal all connected via >Myrnet... I am truly greatful and blessed... so if finance blesses me I hope >to enter the 2005 WCCC... > >but bottom line... will I consider my *CODE* better than Crafty? Diep?... >honestly I seriously doubt it.... > >If by chance I beat either.... I will seriously withdrawal my title.. and use >that a proof that hardware and $$ plays a more crutial role. > >BTW I'm not saying this to rain on anyone's parade..... CODE + HW == best Chess >"MACHINE":... however I dont think comp's should be against best "machine" but >rather best engine... since when you count hardware into the design... you're >really factoring in an unfair advantage to whomever has the deepest pockets. I think that the WCCC2005 should use uniform hardware, that is if they support multiple processors, etc.
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