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Subject: Re: KNNNNKQ (long)

Author: Mark Rawlings

Date: 16:49:20 01/31/05

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On January 31, 2005 at 17:34:52, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 30, 2005 at 12:53:11, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2005 at 10:56:55, Mark Rawlings wrote:
>>
>>>Very interesting!
>>>
>>>Is the KRNKNN mate in 262 still the longest tablebase mate??
>
>Possibly not. If you simply have some 100 move sequence that exchanges to other
>5 or 6 men, you already are having a far longer mate.

There are longer mates, of course, but they haven't been constructed in
tablebases yet.  Also, the DTM in the existing 6-piece tablebases already take
into account the number of moves after conversion to the 5-piece tablebases,
etc.

I remember seeing one of these long tablebase mates where someone added a piece
or two with some forcing moves to create an even longer mate.  This would be
pretty tough to do for more than a few moves, though!

Mark


>
>I don't think we will have exact statistics on it though. DTM won't hold for
>long. It eats too much harddisk space for 7 men when compared to win/draw/loss.
>
>Vincent
>
>>>Mark
>>
>>Yes these 523 plies are the longest DTM so far. I expect this record holds in
>>the 6 piece endings.
>
>KNNNNKQ is a 7 man egtb.
>
>>Helmut



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