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Subject: Re: Man vs machine ?! or is it?

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 20:18:34 01/31/05

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On January 31, 2005 at 17:43:29, Peter Berger wrote:

>Junior 9.0.0.3 - Yace 0.99.87, Blitz:60'+10"
>[D]1n3nk1/2r2pp1/1p2p2p/rq1pP2P/p1pP4/R1P1BN2/1P1Q1PP1/5RK1 w - - 0 1
>
>Here Junior 9 played 24.Bxh6! and went on to win in *the* typical way humans
>used to do the computers in the past. Please note Junior's eval here : 0.27! -
>and how nicely and easily it continues.
>
>I wonder if there are other engines who can play this attack, first the sac,
>then the slow and overwhelming build-up - it's possible, I haven't checked many
>others yet. The move is even kind of forced because statically black is doing
>extremely well here, even if it wouldn't work out.

It takes Falcon 14 seconds to find that move:

Falcon 2.5.2.11 on AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, 1999MHz, 1024MB:
depth     time    nodes   nps  score  variation
 3/6      0.00       0k  311k  -0.20  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.a3a1
 4/7      0.00       0k  866k  -0.31  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7
 5/11     0.00       1k 1745k  -0.23  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3f4
 6/13     0.01       3k  206k  -0.33  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3f4 f8d7
 7/13     0.03       9k  305k  -0.33  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3d2 f8d7
                                      4.d2f4
 7/18     0.05      20k  433k  -0.32  1.a3a2++
 7/18     0.06      28k  459k  -0.27  1.a3a2 b8c6 2.e3h6 g7h6 3.d2h6 f8h7
                                      4.f1a1
 7/18     0.08      39k  510k  -0.26  1.f1b1++
 8/16     0.09      51k  555k  -0.40  1.f1b1 b8c6 2.e3h6 g7h6 3.d2h6 f8h7
                                      4.a3a1 a5a7
 8/19     0.11      58k  535k  -0.39  1.a3a2++
 8/19     0.13      65k  521k  -0.35  1.a3a2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3h6 g7h6
                                      4.d2h6 f8h7
 8/19     0.13      67k  539k  -0.34  1.d2c2++
 9/20     0.20     108k  533k  -0.37  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3d2 f8d7
                                      4.d2f4 a7a8 5.a3a2
 9/20     0.20     110k  545k  -0.36  1.a3a2++
 9/21     0.25     135k  540k  -0.34  1.a3a2 b8c6 2.a2a1 a5a7 3.d2c2
10/26     0.50     279k  559k  -0.38  1.a3a2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3f4 a7a8
                                      4.f4h6 g7h6 5.d2h6 f8h7
10/26     0.52     290k  563k  -0.37  1.d2c2++
11/27     0.77     442k  578k  -0.33  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3c1 f8d7
                                      4.c1f4
12/33     2.06    1199k  581k  -0.42  1.d2c2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3f4 f8d7
                                      4.a3a2 b5b3 5.c2b1 a7a8 6.a2a3 b3b5
12/33     2.20    1281k  581k  -0.41  1.a3a2++
12/33     2.42    1415k  584k  -0.40  1.a3a2 b8c6 2.f1a1 c7a7 3.e3f4 a7a8
                                      4.d2c1 a5a7 5.f4h6 g7h6 6.c1h6 f8h7
12/33     2.77    1626k  588k  -0.39  1.a3a1++
12/33     3.33    1966k  590k  -0.38  1.a3a1 b8c6 2.f1b1 f8h7 3.b1e1 c7a7
                                      4.d2c2 b5b3 5.c2b1 f7f5 6.e5f6 h7f6
12/33     4.33    2570k  593k  -0.37  1.f3h2++
12/33    13.84    8418k  608k  -0.03  1.f3h2++
12/33    13.88    8436k  608k  -0.18  1.f3h2 b8c6 2.h2g4 f8h7 3.d2c2 c7a7
                                      4.g4h6 g7h6 5.e3h6 a7a8 6.a3a1 h7f8
12/33    14.34    8708k  607k  -0.17  1.e3h6++
12/34    16.03    9737k  607k   0.30  1.e3h6 g7h6 2.d2h6 f8h7 3.f3g5 h7g5
                                      4.h6g5 g8h7 5.a3a2 b5b3 6.f1a1 a4a3
                                      7.h5h6 f7f6
13/36    17.88   10863k  607k   0.17  1.e3h6 g7h6 2.d2h6 f8h7 3.f3g5 h7g5
                                      4.h6g5 g8h7 5.g5d8 c7b7 6.d8f8 b5b2
                                      7.h5h6 f7f5 8.e5f6 h7g6
14/45    55.19   34326k  622k   0.47  1.e3h6++
14/45    61.86   38501k  622k   0.42  1.e3h6 g7h6 2.d2h6 b5d7 3.f3g5 b8c6
                                      4.f1b1 c6a7 5.g2g4 a7b5 6.a3a2 a4a3
                                      7.b1c1 a5a8
15/47    93.67   57835k  617k   0.41  1.e3h6 g7h6 2.d2h6 b5e8 3.f3g5 b8c6
                                      4.f1a1 a5a8 5.f2f4 c7c8 6.g2g4 c6e7











>
>One of the most impressive computer games I have seen so far.
>
>Junior played on my Athlon64 3200+(2.,0GHz) notebook, 256MB Hash
>Yace played on PIV 3.2GHz HT, 512 MB Hash
>
>Time control was game in 1 hour with 10 seconds increment/move
>
>This was round 18 of a little match
>
>First 6 games Junior had the black pieces and scored an Ok-ish +2/=3/-1
>
>Next 12 games Junior had white and won all games played so far !.
>
> The game according to Junior:
>
>[Event "Blitz:60'+10""]
>[Site "Berlin"]
>[Date "2005.01.31"]
>[Round "18"]
>[White "Junior 9.0.0.3"]
>[Black "Yace 0.99.87"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C03"]
>[Annotator "Athlon64 3200+(2.0GHz)-PIV3.2GHz HT"]
>[PlyCount "75"]
>[TimeControl "3600+10"]
>
>{256MB, Junior9.ctg, XP3200} 1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. d4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 3. Nd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
>(Sf6) [%emt 0:00:03]} 4. Ngf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 5. e5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Nfd7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {
>[%emt 0:00:03]} 7. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {(Sc6) [%emt 0:00:03]} 8. Qe2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 9. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
>(La6) [%emt 0:05:26]} 10. Bb5 {[%eval 15,18] [%emt 0:02:32]} Ba6 {
>(Lb7) [%emt 0:04:03]} 11. a4 {[%eval 11,19] [%emt 0:03:18]} Qc7 {
>(Dc8) [%emt 0:02:22]} 12. Nb3 {[%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:01:47]} Bxb5 {
>(c4) [%emt 0:01:45]} 13. axb5 {[%eval -2,18] [%emt 0:00:47]} c4 {[%emt 0:00:46]
>} 14. Nbd2 {[%eval 2,20] [%emt 0:01:11]} Rc8 {(Te8) [%emt 0:00:36]} 15. Nb1 {
>[%eval 0,20] [%emt 0:01:35]} Qd8 {[%emt 0:00:32]} 16. Bf4 {
>[%eval -10,21] [%emt 0:01:39]} Nf8 {[%emt 0:01:21]} 17. Na3 {
>[%eval -8,19] [%emt 0:00:31]} a4 {(Sg6) [%emt 0:02:11]} 18. Be3 {
>[%eval -3,19] [%emt 0:02:02]} Qd7 {(Sg6) [%emt 0:02:06]} 19. h4 {
>[%eval -10,19] [%emt 0:01:53]} Ra5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 20. h5 {
>[%eval 3,19] [%emt 0:02:08]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 21. Qc2 {
>[%eval -6,18] [%emt 0:00:50]} Rc7 {(De8) [%emt 0:01:19]} 22. Qd2 {
>[%eval -8,18] [%emt 0:01:25]} Bxa3 {(Sh7) [%emt 0:01:32]} 23. Rxa3 {
>[%eval 19,18] [%emt 0:01:27]} Qxb5 {(Txb5) [%emt 0:00:24]} 24. Bxh6 {
>[%eval 27,20] [%emt 0:01:44]} gxh6 {[%emt 0:01:45]} 25. Qxh6 {
>[%eval 28,19] [%emt 0:01:14]} Qe8 {(Sh7) [%emt 0:00:33]} 26. Ng5 {
>[%eval 85,18] [%emt 0:01:42]} Nc6 {(Tb5) [%emt 0:01:40]} 27. f4 {
>[%eval 117,18] [%emt 0:01:35]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:00:08]} 28. g4 {
>[%eval 116,18] [%emt 0:01:25]} Rc6 {[%emt 0:00:14]} 29. Kh2 {
>[%eval 85,18] [%emt 0:01:36]} b5 {[%emt 0:04:12]} 30. Raa1 {
>[%eval 43,18] [%emt 0:01:24]} Ra7 {(b4) [%emt 0:04:27]} 31. Rg1 {
>[%eval 62,17] [%emt 0:01:03]} Rca6 {(b4) [%emt 0:00:24]} 32. Raf1 {
>[%eval 154,16] [%emt 0:00:50]} a3 {[%emt 0:01:47]} 33. f5 {
>[%eval 214,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} exf5 {[%emt 0:05:32]} 34. e6 {
>[%eval 215,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} fxe6 {(f4) [%emt 0:01:06]} 35. Nh7 {
>[%eval 276,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} Nxh7 {(Db8+) [%emt 0:00:48]} 36. gxf5+ {
>[%eval 1618,17] [%emt 0:01:13]} Ng6 {[%emt 0:04:08]} 37. Rxg6+ {
>[%eval 32753,17] [%emt 0:04:08]} Kh8 {[%emt 0:03:54]} 38. f6 {
>[%eval 32753,6] [%emt 0:03:54]} 1-0
>
>The game according to Yace:
>
>[Event "Computer chess game 0 3600 +10 0 0"]
>[Site "PIV3.2GHz HT - Athlon64 3200+(2.0GHz)"]
>[Date "2005.01.31"]
>[Round "18"]
>[White "Junior 9.0.0.3"]
>[Black "Yace 0.99.87"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C03"]
>[Opening "French"]
>[Variation "Tarrasch"]
>[Timecontrol "0 3600 +10 0 0"]
>[Time "Mon Jan 31 23:10:31 2005"]
>[last_book_move "8...a5"]
>[LogFile "logs\yace0036.log"]
>
>1. e4 {0.00s} e6 {0.00s} 2. d4 {4.51s} d5 {0.04s} 3. Nd2 {3.48s} Be7 {0.02s}
>4. Ngf3 {3.88s} Nf6 {0.01s} 5. e5 {3.63s} Nfd7 {0.01s} 6. Bd3 {3.77s} c5
>{0.02s} 7. c3 {3.35s} b6 {0.02s} 8. Qe2 {4.13s} a5 {0.02s} 9. O-O {3.81s} O-O
>{-0.10/12 321.42s} 10. Bb5 {158.02s} (10. Ne1) 10...Ba6 {0.03/12 237.20s} 11.
>a4 {204.06s} (11. Bxa6) 11...Qc7 {0.12/13 137.83s} 12. Nb3 {111.82s} (12. b3)
>12...Bxb5 {0.15/13 100.59s} 13. axb5 {51.48s} c4 {0.12/13 41.09s} 14. Nbd2
>{75.92s} Rc8 {0.12/14 30.35s} 15. Nb1 {100.77s} Qd8 {0.15/14 27.57s} 16. Bf4
>{106.30s} (16. Be3) 16...Nf8 {0.15/14 74.02s} 17. Na3 {36.23s} (17. Qc2) 17...
>a4 {0.29/13 125.08s} 18. Be3 {128.01s} (18. Rfb1) 18...Qd7 {0.73/13 120.47s}
>19. h4 {117.87s} Ra5 {0.71/14 0.00s} 20. h5 {132.60s} h6 {0.75/14 0.00s} 21.
>Qc2 {53.75s} (21. Nd2) 21...Rc7 {0.80/14 74.16s} 22. Qd2 {89.88s} (22. Qe2)
>22...Bxa3 {0.84/14 87.02s} 23. Rxa3 {93.10s} Qxb5 {0.82/14 18.09s} 24. Bxh6
>{110.82s} (24. Qe2) 24...gxh6 {1.50/14 99.74s} 25. Qxh6 {79.92s} Qe8
>{1.52/13 27.35s} 26. Ng5 {107.37s} (26. Rfa1) 26...Nc6 {1.46/12 93.67s} 27. f4
>{100.66s} Ne7 {1.34/12 2.56s} 28. g4 {90.57s} Rc6 {1.37/13 8.84s} 29. Kh2
>{101.21s} (29. Kf2) 29...b5 {0.92/13 247.38s} 30. Raa1 {89.41s} (30. Rg1) 30...
>Ra7 {0.93/13 262.02s} 31. Rg1 {68.35s} Rca6 {0.66/12 18.61s} 32. Raf1 {56.62s}
>(32. f5) 32...a3 {-0.19/12 101.19s} 33. f5 {6.05s} exf5 {-1.77/13 325.54s} 34.
>e6 {5.20s} fxe6 {-1.77/11 62.15s} 35. Nh7 {27.79s} (35. gxf5) 35...Nxh7
>{-1.10/10 43.39s} 36. gxf5+ {77.74s} Ng6 {-20.41/13 241.88s} 37. Rxg6+ {5.77s}
>(37. fxg6) 37...Kh8 {-M13/14 228.70s} 38. f6 {4.28s} axb2 {-M12/13 41.60s}
>1-0 {Black resigns}



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