Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:28:10 02/01/05
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On February 01, 2005 at 13:22:57, Peter Kappler wrote: When diep would have this position against another engine in some important tournament, 99% chance it wins it. That 1% chance is the chance that i get a heart attack, that the connection breaks down forever, that diep crashes, and so on. Vincent >On February 01, 2005 at 11:03:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On January 31, 2005 at 23:51:17, Peter Kappler wrote: >> >>I would not for any money in the world want to defend the black position. It >>feels like a long term win for white. Black can do nothing. It's a sitting >duck. > >That was my first reaction, too, but after analyzing a bit (with some help from >Shredder) it became pretty clear that black is doing fine. Here's an example: > >Bxh6 gxh6 Qxh6 Nh7 Ng5 Nxg5 Qxg5 Kh7 h6 f6(f5) exf6 Qe8 > >Shredder prefers Nc6 over Qe8, but Qe8 more clearly illustrates that the attack >is over. White can try other ideas, but most of them are worse than the line >above. The weak b2 pawn and misplaced a3 rook really hurt white's chances. > >-Peter > > > >> >>>On January 31, 2005 at 19:14:38, Torstein Hall wrote: >>> >>>>On January 31, 2005 at 19:09:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 31, 2005 at 18:59:23, Torstein Hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I personally have no idea, but diep happily takes at h6 here. >>>>> >>>>>I regret it a bit. Initially it wants Nf3-h2-g4 x h6. Looks way stronger. >>>> >>>>I agree 100% that it Nh2 looks stronger. I can not find a simple win or a very >>>>large advantage after Bxh6 gxh6 Qxh6 Nh7 >>>> >>>>Torstein >>>> >>> >>> >>>Me either. In fact, I'm pretty sure Black is better after Bxh6 gxh6 Qxh6 Nh7. >>>The black pieces (especially the queen) can get back to the kingside in time to >>>defend. Things might be different if white could get a rook into the action >>>more quickly. >>> >>>-Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>practical i'm sure that there is many ways for black to blow this after either >>>>>move (g4, Nh2 or Bxh6). >>>>> >>>>>Just play on and win. >>>>> >>>>>>On January 31, 2005 at 18:28:12, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>I agree it looks very promissing for white, but can anyone give me a simple >>>>>>winning line? >>>>>> >>>>>>Torstein >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 31, 2005 at 18:00:14, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On January 31, 2005 at 17:43:29, Peter Berger wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Junior 9.0.0.3 - Yace 0.99.87, Blitz:60'+10" >>>>>>>>>1n3nk1/2r2pp1/1p2p2p/rq1pP2P/p1pP4/R1P1BN2/1P1Q1PP1/5RK1 w - - 0 1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Here Junior 9 played 24.Bxh6! and went on to win in *the* typical way humans >>>>>>>>>used to do the computers in the past. Please note Junior's eval here : 0.27! - >>>>>>>>>and how nicely and easily it continues. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I wonder if there are other engines who can play this attack, first the sac, >>>>>>>>>then the slow and overwhelming build-up - it's possible, I haven't checked many >>>>>>>>>others yet. The move is even kind of forced because statically black is doing >>>>>>>>>extremely well here, even if it wouldn't work out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Puh". Anyone can play Bxh6. It's the move all patzers would play. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Real men (in other words, Deep Sjeng) attack with g4!! and g5! next move. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>With such a lonely King i think g4 and g5 wins too......But Bxh6 is more quick >>>>>>>and spectacular!
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