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Subject: Re: 6-man TBs

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:18:07 02/02/05

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On February 02, 2005 at 15:17:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 02, 2005 at 13:22:54, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2005 at 11:46:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 02, 2005 at 01:33:29, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 01, 2005 at 21:55:56, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 01, 2005 at 21:39:40, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there any chance of some 6-man tables becoming available before CCT?  My wish
>>>>>>list is actually pretty small:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KRPKRP <--- Only white available, and totals 3.41gb of space.
>>>>>>KRPPKR
>>>>>>KQPKQP
>>>>>>KQPPKQ
>>>>>>KRKPPP <--- That one would be absolutely HUGE!!
>>>>
>>>>Not really. The 3 pawns give a big reduction. The total number of entries for
>>>>each color is below 2GB. (1806*62*((48!/(45!*3!))))
>>>>
>>>>The biggest problem might be that because of the amount of (under)promotions you
>>>>will need all other KRKZZZ tables to generate this one.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>The other issue is compression.  KRKPPP probably has +lots+ of wins, which means
>>>few 0 scores and resulting poor compression.
>>
>>Isn't this a good argument for W/L/D tables?  What I would _really_ like to have
>>is a full set of 6-man W/L/D tables, plus DTM tables for the complicated endings
>>that I just posted.  Once the full 6-man set is generated, it should be pretty
>>simple to just run through and convert each to a W/L/D.  Of course, Eugene seems
>>pretty busy these days :)
>>
>>anthony
>
>
>Make 'em.  :)
>
>If you think about it, it is not hard.  6 loops, one for each piece's possible
>squares.  Probe the table, if the score is > 0 it is a win, = 0 is a draw, <0 is
>a loss.  The resulting files will _still_ be big.  The 8 bit tables will shrink
>by about a factor of 5.  The 16 bit tables will shrink by a factor of 10.  You
>still end up with a _bunch_ of gigabytes.  Say 100gb per TB.

That's already a far different statement than a while ago.

Entire uncompressed size of diep's 6 men is 1 TB.

Now you are saying: "say a 100gb" ==> 100 gigabit = 14GB.

Vincent



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